What are we to believe?

[Rednosty]

I would not go along with the presumption of guilt, first thing is The police who are doing a hard job, are not always right even when they produce evidence to fit the presumed crime, over the years in this country we have seen innocent people jailed for years only to set free because they were convicted on evidence that was very dubious but supported by experts at the time.

Trial by media, or the push for a story to increse circulation is an old story Ms Lees was thought to be the prime suspect for the murder of Peter Falconio, Lees was just not a standard victim, she escaped and when the rumours of her relationship with another man came to light a collective guilty was muttered by millions all over the world.

The Madeline case is one the portuguese want to go away, they are sick of it, sick of the WW media attention and don't like the shadow it is casting over its tourist trade, don't like the rumours that are being spread in other nations press about an inept, even crap police force, they just want it sorted, they want the McCann's to shut up and go home so they can get back to normal.

It is easy to think the worst and even worse still is when the worst becomes true, I have to think the McCann's are parents who made the error of leaving their kids alone for? 30-40 minutes while at a near by resturant (The baby sitting service they did not ask for only patrol the corridors and if they hear any crying or noise contact the parents or on rare occasions investigate themselve, so if the doubters are right that would not have altered anything, and also abductors of children I think, try to be quiet and discreit) and are hurting, that night will be on constant replay in their minds, so many What if 's.

I don't know anything, I just can not speculate, that road leads to alsorts of thoughts, I mean Portugal is not the most safe place for kids they have like every other place in the world had a share of scandal......

Well written and spot on Is this not what I was trying to say earlier in this thread!

DON'T Jump to conclusions

There are lots of Weird things in this case!

I too have seen no crying (There again I did not cry at my dads Death) BUT the thing that worries me is there seemed so little distress in the parents faces!

[Cocksparrer]

Media & Police are now thinking the mother may have killed madeline by accident. They have said to the mother if it was an accident admit it and the sentence wont be so hard. Now I know as a parent if anything happened to either of my kids id be screaming ranting & raving, balling my eyes out Id never be able to sleep. Id probally have violent fits now those two are stone cold, never once did either of them show any remorse or emotion. They have kept the case hyped up in the hope that madelines body would be found so it would close unsolved (i recon).

Yup sorry to say I always thought those two were suss.

Rednosty, they were offered a baby sitting service by the hotel, they REFUSED it. Far as I know the babysitting service stay in the room with the kids not patrol corridors, dunno where you heard that one. Dont you think that suss. Who leaves 3 kids in a room on their own, door unlocked and pops back every 30 mins or so,, sod that I wouldnt leave a kid of that age just to walk to the corner shop & back & thats right outside my front door.

[Cocksparrer]

When my nan past away 18 months ago I went mad, crying constantly trying to speak to her to wake up. Suspecting my mum as she was alone with her at the time. When nan passed away mum didnt even bother phoning the ambulance service, she waited till my grandfather returned back from shopping. Then he did all the calls, my car was out of action at the time so had a friend drive me over & mum was just emotionless, never cried, but when family turned up out came the crocodile tears. And she got sympathy. When people have no emotions then there is definately something wrong.

As the 2 parents of Madeline have never shown any emotion, come on a 3 yr old child their skin & bone & no tears on tv not even crocodile tears. That tells me that they are unfit parents and both twins should be taken away.

But thats my point of view.

[Rednosty]

I have always thought thier lack of emotion to be strange, until this morning when it showed them coming out of the police station after being questioned.

They dont look upset at the accusations - they just look completely sickened by them. They are both exhausted and clearly sick to death of the whole Police investigation.

And for me thats enough to raise doubt that they are guilty.

Blox and Red are probably right on this - we just dont have enough information to say either way, and to accuse them on gut feel is just WRONG !

I have suspected from day one they knew more than they were letting on, but this morning I am not so sure.

Heck of a case.... Where's Columbo when you need him.

He's on the case.....

[Rednosty]

He's on the case.....

And Him!

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[mobymatt]

No sign of emotion? I guess the BBC just made up the following incidents then?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6983007.stm

...She broke down publicly at a church service to mark a calendar month after Madeleine's disappearance, bursting into tears after a young Portuguese girl kissed her during the service...

And the couple were granted a brief audience with Pope Benedict XVI in Rome during May.


Mrs McCann, visibly upset and close to tears, showed the Pope a photograph of Madeleine, which he blessed...

...But although appearing distressed and distraught, the McCanns have still managed to face a constant barrage of demands from media from across the world, in their attempts to keep their missing daughter in the minds of the public...

I think it's a dangerous game to judge someone as suspect based upon our own expectations of how they should behave when under the public eye - people react very differently when dealing with devastating circumstances.

I was distraught when my nan died, but I didn't cry at her funeral - it didn't feel 'right'. It was actually a few days later when I was alone that I shed a few tears. I'd hate to think I gave the impression I didn't care for my nan just because I hadn't collapsed to the ground wailing and beating my head with my hands when she was being laid to rest.

Unless anyone has spent 24 hours a day with the McCann's I don't see how they can say they've shown a lack of emotion.

Also, I am constantly amazed at the lengths the media will go to in order to get one up on their rivals and be first with the 'big story' and make a few extra sales. I know there's a tremendous amount of public interest in this case, but it's an ongoing investigation for goodness sake!

Without any official charges in the case whatsoever one Portuguese newspaper has already accused the parents of killing their daughter! I don't know the ins and outs of Portuguese law and reporting restrictions, but in this country if charges were brought against the parents the case would be thrown out of court due to the prejudice of the "trial by media". Whatever happens in the case some of these rags should be closed down for good.

Who knows what the next development will be in this tragic case, but if the 'unimaginable' is true then the last few months of the parents raising awareness, meeting with the Pope, launching appeals for other missing children etc.. would be one of the most sustained, cynical and callous attempts at covering tracks that I'd ever known.

[craftinstef2]

I'll be glad when it's done and over. It's a very sad case. They even hired a campaign manager to keep it going. And, I feel sorry for the ll-yr old Manchester boy's mum. Their story seemed not to get nearly as much attention as little Madelaine. And it's just as tragic.

[hughpharted]

its been odd from day 1 - i don't know anything except i have never seen her cry

that is odd to me

you been in her room at nites then ?

[charleysbus]

I feel sorry for the ll-yr old Manchester boy's mum. Their story seemed not to get nearly as much attention as little Madelaine. And it's just as tragic.

this is true but if i lost a child i whould not want it on the tv reminding me all the time..
that must hurt more..

[damian_steele]

I'm just sick and tired of the whole circus.
I wish the media would stop all the speculation and BS. When they have some FACTS to report, I'll be interested, but until then . . . . . .