YDC Rules - Open Discussion

[pearlygirl555]

So long as the percentage that has been promised to charity actually gets there verifiably, wouldn't it be permissible for a percentage of the price to stay with the seller of the item? It might encourage people to list more costly items, leading to a wider variety of goods on the block, if the seller were able to cover the cost of the item rather than letting it go for less than its worth. I'm thinking of Matt during the Australian relief effort, didn't he have tickets to a sporting event that he was willing to auction provided that he was able to recoup what he had paid for the ticket? The discussion at that time was supportive of him being able to arrange his auction that way, if I recall.

Edited to add.....I'm not suggesting or implying that someone would or should use the YDC as a means of artificially inflating the value of an item, then saying they had to get that amount back out of the item before the remaining money went to charity. Simply that it might make for a broader spectrum of things to bid on

[raindropsies]

So long as the percentage that has been promised to charity actually gets there verifiably, wouldn't it be permissible for a percentage of the price to stay with the seller of the item? It might encourage people to list more costly items, leading to a wider variety of goods on the block, if the seller were able to cover the cost of the item rather than letting it go for less than its worth. I'm thinking of Matt during the Australian relief effort, didn't he have tickets to a sporting event that he was willing to auction provided that he was able to recoup what he had paid for the ticket? The discussion at that time was supportive of him being able to arrange his auction that way, if I recall.

I've no issues with non - YDC auctions giving a % to a charity, but with YDC I am of the opinion of all proceeds (auction final price) go to the charity / good cause. Like I say it's just a view and threw it in the pot.
If a % is to be OK maybe a min % like 50% is set out

[raindropsies]

Edited to add.....I'm not suggesting or implying that someone would or should use the YDC as a means of artificially inflating the value of an item, then saying they had to get that amount back out of the item before the remaining money went to charity. Simply that it might make for a broader spectrum of things to bid on

I agree with you on that

[bykimbo]

I've no issues with non - YDC auctions giving a % to a charity, but with YDC I am of the opinion of all proceeds (auction final price) go to the charity / good cause. Like I say it's just a view and threw it in the pot.
If a % is to be OK maybe a min % like 50% is set out

My initial reaction was that for YDC everything should be for charity, but when I stopped and thought about it, I could see the advantages (as you and Pearly have said, greater range of stuff perhaps) of allowing partial recovery of cost to the seller. At least half going to charity seems like a reasonable compromise to me. Still not entirely sure though - hope we get some more views and input on this one!

[pearlygirl555]

One thing I noticed when I landed on eBid was, there were a lot of charity auctions listed and many of them had a percentage of the price going to charity (some the full amount) but there is not the special icon as there is on the other side. Over there, I listed almost all of my items through that program and was able to make nice donations to causes, and at least a percentage of my buyers chose to bid on my item over a similar one because of the charity component.

So I'm wondering if the seller can have their item price fairly covered, yet still make a donation through the context of the YDC, if we might not be able to generate both a wider selection of goods, and perhaphs attract people in through Google? I mean, I couldn't title something "Haitian Aid Recipes Kimbo Blackballed Bid Freely" because people don't search for that, but it might pave the way for enticing newbies to the site.

Having said all that, I'm happy with the way things are, the full amount going to charity.

I can't blackball Kimbo yet, I'm shopping for templates

[lejoueurdepipeau]

Quote - I think the round figures was mentioned by someone earlier in the thread cos of their current pricing structure - whether we go for round figures accross the board - 1 of everything be it pounds, dollars or euros or everyone works from the current £1 and calculated their exchange accordingly is up to the majority vote so to speak.

I am sorry Babs but this made me cross - so that I had to go away and come back before winging off a reply. On reflection there have been a number of crossed wires during this thread and I'm hoping this is another one. You can't possibly mean that if the majority on the eBid sites say I should start my YDC auction at 1 euro (or 89p currently) that I will have to comply? During the fluctuations in exchange rates the euro has been worth anything from 70-90p - why should I start my auctions at those rates when everyone else starts at £1? If that is the case I will not be taking part in YDC auctions in future.

Quote-I think when it comes to charity items, a lot of us are in the same boat on that one and end up loosing money on things that we have to buy in for the charity auctions.

Yes, I acknowledged that in my posting but if I have to start my auctions at 89p when everyone else starts at £1 - I shall be "losing" even more and so will the charity - and charity is what I am trying to raise the money for.

Fior myself, being based in the UK, I prefer to work in pounds, yet when I've bought from overseas, I've always paid in the currency of that country. I would think that would have been the norm. Does that mean that people pay you in GBP rather than Euros or do you list in GBP?

Personally, I am happy to accept either pounds or euros because I still maintain an English bank account as well as my French one - but obviously that will not be the same for everyone listing from mainland Europe! I have to pay the charity in pounds anyway as so far they have all been UK based. I list in euros and then eBid do some sort of automatic translation to pounds which then appears alongside on the listing. This can mean that if I aim for the equivalent of £1 I may be slightly out because they may not use the same currency converter that I do.

and then bykimbo

Quote" I tend to end up selecting "UK only"

I find this really depressing (and you are the second person to have said that this week in the forums) and it is small wonder I don't sell much on eBid if that is what is happening.

It is a good job I don't do the same when I'm shopping and exclude you "foreigners" - a) because there is nothing much to buy listed solely on eBid France and b) all those sellers on eBid UK I have purchased from during the last year (YDC and otherwise) would not have made those sales!

I am nearer here to you in Cornwall than sellers based in Scotland - anyone would think I was in the Gobi desert or something. Actually I know France is considered rather old fashioned but we do have a postal service (as I expect they do in the Gobi desert) and often things arrive in the UK quicker than items posted in the UK take to cross it. The postage is often less too! I don't understand why eg if someone buys Limoges pottery at a French vide grenier and takes it back to the UK and sells it on eBid - you would consider buying it but if I buy the same thing here and sell it on eBid - you wouldn't even look at it. Makes no sense to me - but then I buy what I need or want from all over the world if the price is right.

Right having got all that off my chest =- I'm going out to the folk club - where there will be singers and musicians from France and the UK all getting along nicely!

[bykimbo]

I can't blackball Kimbo yet, I'm shopping for templates

Cheeky mare.

[bykimbo]

I have previously asked ebid to improve the way it handles including and excluding countries in/from searches. I want to be able to say "all Euro" or tick those countries I want, not just choose one. Perhaps it's time to ask again!

[pearlygirl555]

Cheeky mare.

Yep

[SantasWonderland]

Agree with you on that, since I have some Pudsey bear stuff to list for this years one.