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Thread: so we gotta keep him for 40years

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    An al-Qaeda plotter who planned to kill thousands of people in the UK and US has been sentenced to life and told he must serve at least 40 years in jail.
    Dhiren Barot, 34 and from London, had admitted conspiracy to murder. He was sentenced at Woolwich Crown Court.

    Edmund Lawson QC, prosecuting, told the court Barot had planned to unleash a "memorable black day" of terror.

    Mr Justice Butterfield said it could have caused carnage on a "colossal and unprecedented scale" if successful.

    'No noble cause'

    Barot, a former Hindu who converted to Islam, is also wanted by US authorities over charges of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction in the US and in Yemen.

    The judge told him: "This was no noble cause. Your plans were to bring indiscriminate carnage, bloodshed and butchery first in Washington, New York and Newark, and thereafter the UK on a colossal and unprecedented scale."

    Mr Lawson had said the conspiracy was "probably in the final stages, but the Crown was unable to say that there was to be an attack carried out within weeks or months.

    For well over two years we have been unable to show the British public the reality of the threat they faced from this man

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    The prosecution conceded the police had not found any evidence that materials had been acquired to carry out the plans, but said officers had also failed to find weapons to which Barot had access.

    But defence lawyer Ian Macdonald QC denied this, and referred to the main part of the conspiracy as, in Barot's words, a "rough presentation".

    Mr Lawson said Barot prepared meticulous plans for al-Qaeda figures on a series of synchronised attacks in the UK.

    "The central plan was for the construction and deployment in a basement car park underneath a building of an improvised explosive device using gas cylinders hidden in limousines."

    Mr Justice Butterfield said that Barot had not achieved any of his terror goals and that, on the evidence, he had not "moved to the final stages of achieving them". But he added that this was no thanks to him.

    Mass damage

    Mr Lawson added it was to be launched simultaneously with other attacks including a dirty bomb, an attack on trains, and the hijacking of petrol tankers to be rammed into a target.

    In the document, Barot had written his primary objective of the project was to "inflict mass damage and chaos".

    Mr Lawson previously told the court Barot also plotted to detonate a bomb under the River Thames to flood the Tube network and potentially drown hundreds of commuters.

    Barot also planned to strike a number of US financial institutions. His plans for bombings in the US were initiated before the 11 September attacks, and Barot is not thought to have had any advance knowledge of them.

    Barot's plans were found on a laptop computer seized during a raid on a house in Gujrat, Pakistan, in July 2004. The Muslim convert, from Kingsbury, north-west London, was arrested by armed police the next month.

    Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch head, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, called Barot a "determined and experienced terrorist" who attended training camps in 1995.

    "For well over two years we have been unable to show the British public the reality of the threat they faced from this man. Now they can see for themselves the full horror of his plan."
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    Quote Originally Posted by PATRIOT73 View Post
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    Barot, a former Hindu who converted to Islam, is also wanted by US authorities over charges of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction in the US and in Yemen.

    If he's wanted by the US but we don't want him, let them have him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anichka54 View Post
    Barot, a former Hindu who converted to Islam, is also wanted by US authorities over charges of conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction in the US and in Yemen.

    If he's wanted by the US but we don't want him, let them have him.



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    really strange...he looked like a normal nice guy - looks are deceptive i guess

    yeah i know isnt it something like 300 quid a week plus to keep a prisoner? something like that and pensioners who have fought in both world wars and paid their taxes all their lives get pennies to survive on and in many cases die of cold weather yearly - pathetic

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    that might have sounded like i support death penalty, i dont, but there has to be better solutions - make prisoners earn a living and keep little of it and the rest goes to the state? i dunno - punishment should go side by side by rehabiliation and the prisoner paying back to society what he took - balance the books as it were

    hands soap box off to someone else lol

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    If he's wanted by the US but we don't want him, let them have him.

    ......... except our potty laws mean we can't deport someone to a country where their crime demands a death penalty. They would only let him go to the USA if he was to be tried in a State which has no Death Penalty. The Lawyers would fight extradition in the European Courts. As Europe dictates all our laws now, what we want doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emma5721 View Post
    that might have sounded like i support death penalty, i dont, but there has to be better solutions - make prisoners earn a living and keep little of it and the rest goes to the state? i dunno - punishment should go side by side by rehabiliation and the prisoner paying back to society what he took - balance the books as it were

    hands soap box off to someone else lol
    passes the soap box back to emma

    think you said it all

    ....cept how do you pay back for a life?

    harder work, less reward, longer sentence?

    i really dont know the answers and am glad its not me having to make the decisions


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    how you pay back for a life??? thats easy..you do your due you make amends you have remorse you have a rapport with a family etc etc etc ....in this case how does he pay back for potentially wanting to killing thousands.......i dont know - thought he didnt actually kill anyone he plotted to and in this case its not about the same thing...its about brainwashed guy wnats to murder thousands....the sentence should be shared by those that made him do that

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    it wasnt just a thought emma he travelled many countries excelling an extrodinary amount of research and energy into it...........just look at the papers, there's no doubt that he would of had a very large part in killing and maiming god knows how many innocent men, woman & children!

    he wasnt your average geek in a science lab fanatising about the odd explosion here & there he planning top notch terrorist acts and presenting his plans to the al queda

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    where did i say was just a thought etc etc?

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