Electoral Reform Petition

[astral276]

They have not caught me yet.

Are you the person behind this: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...police-5691449

[MPS16]

Are you the person behind this: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...police-5691449

I am proud to say that I am a resident of Thanet.

"The claim was reported by a non-resident who saw the #ThanetRigged hashtag - but the council has blamed 'speculation on social media'"

[astral276]

I am proud to say that I am a resident of Thanet.

"The claim was reported by a non-resident who saw the #ThanetRigged hashtag - but the council has blamed 'speculation on social media'"

That article has changed beyond all recognition since I posted the link to it, and what you quoted was not in it then - just that UKIP had denied making the complaint. Seems there is no point linking to Mirror articles.

[MPS16]

.... Seems there is no point linking to Mirror articles.

Quite, The Mirror does not reflect the truth.

[suesjools]

Errrr.... You do use that system. The Electoral College only selects the President and Vice President. First Past The Post is chiefly used by countries that are ex-British colonies.

What I meant was the electoral college should be done away with entirely and Pres. and VP should be selected by popular vote as are all the other offices.

I like the Icelandic system, where anyone who is a citizen can have a say in government by attending government sessions and voicing concerns, IMHO that's true democracy at its best. (I'm aware this wouldn't be feasible in countries with large populations, I'm not a total idiot, but I can dream)...

Back to the original topic: what will happen if this poll proves popular? Do you think it will have an impact on how future UK elections are decided?

Best wishes for many sales to all,

[astral276]

I'm not a total idiot, but I can dream)...

What of? One day becoming one?

Back to the original topic: what will happen if this poll proves popular? Do you think it will have an impact on how future UK elections are decided?

As the current system benefits the two main parties then it unlikely to happen. Even if there were another referendum it would be like the last, phrased in such a way that the answer is guaranteed to be the one the incumbent government wants; a binary choice between the current system and a worse one.

[suesjools]

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I'm not a total idiot, but I can dream)... [/QUOTE

What of? One day becoming one?



As the current system benefits the two main parties then it unlikely to happen. Even if there were another referendum it would be like the last, phrased in such a way that the answer is guaranteed to be the one the incumbent government wants; a binary choice between the current system and a worse one.

That stinks, but unfortunately it's the system we have here as well, in that the two major parties control the government, and any 3rd party candidate has a much harder time of getting elected to any office, forget about the highest offices. Even Teddy Roosevelt couldn't win on a 3rd party ticket, and that's saying something.

I do wish parties outside the mainstream had more of a chance; I've often been tempted to vote Green myself, (as I feel closest to their platform), but don't as I don't want to waste a vote. Sad but true...

Best wishes for many sales to all,

[squern]

What I meant was the electoral college should be done away with entirely and Pres. and VP should be selected by popular vote as are all the other offices.

I like the Icelandic system, where anyone who is a citizen can have a say in government by attending government sessions and voicing concerns, IMHO that's true democracy at its best. (I'm aware this wouldn't be feasible in countries with large populations, I'm not a total idiot, but I can dream)...

Back to the original topic: what will happen if this poll proves popular? Do you think it will have an impact on how future UK elections are decided?

Best wishes for many sales to all,

It's very cold in Iceland, and the government offices are very warm!

[squern]

The problem with PR is that it hands power to groups of people out of all proportion to their support.
In Israel they have it, and find that a party with 5% of the vote can dictate to those with much more support.

If we had PR you would have MPs from the National Front, The English Defence League, The Monster Raving Looney Party, and any bigot or racist that could collect a few votes in each constituency.

Would you really want that?

[MPS16]

.....If we had PR you would have MPs from the National Front, The English Defence League, The Monster Raving Looney Party, and any bigot or racist that could collect a few votes in each constituency.

Would you really want that?

Yes

Thats true democracy.

Plus of course you would have those horrid UKIP people and The Green Party as well.