Thank you sogobuymugs, its a bit daunting all this, i know iv been on ebay a while but never really got anywhere so i am still basically new to all this and im still trying to find a good combination of all things that will work, i understand where deanosaur1972 is coming from but the main reason i moved from ebay to here was because i was hardly making any money and if i lowered my prices here again there would have been no point in moving