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    Default Re: Excessive postage!

    Shipping from Canada to anywhere but Canada is ridiculously expensive,I used to sell the odd wii or ps3 video game or dvd on the other site but they capped the shipping at 5$,problem is to ship 1 game or dvd in a large enough bubble mailer(which costs money,ink to print the label tape paper etc)my total shipping fee would run over 7$ to the u.s or Canada 12$ anywhere else worldwide and I know first hand to ship a decent sized book out of country is easily 12-18$ granted I purchase and print my labels using paypal so they come with tracking number and insurance but if I were to bring the same item to my postal counter ask for tracking number and insurance it would run me about 20$
    Yes there are some sellers who do charge obviously inflated shipping fees,simple enough to not purchase from them till you run across one who has reasonable fees and most good sellers do,a happy customer is usually a repeat customer so I charge what I pay for shipping in total,selling sports cards to say europe I can fit up to about 10 cards for 6$,that may seem like a lot but my cost just to print the label is 5.94$ cdn plus my bubble mailers plastics etc so really that 6$ is for up to 10 cards a printed label with invoice number plastics to protect the cards the ink paper and tape used to secure the mailer plus the time to find and package the cards,does not seem unreasonable to me,nor would it to most and if someone,knowing full well of my shipping fees purchased items and left a neg feedback on my shipping fees alone it would tick me off,if my items sent arrived not as described well that is another story,one which I would try to either send replacements or a refund whichever my buyer chose,but to leave a bad feedback for a shipping fee your well aware of is really unfair and keep this in mind some buyers may find your shipping fees high (not saying they are,I do not know)but how would it feel to get a neg based on what you feel is a reasonable charge for your time materials and cost to ship

    Sellers ultimately can charge what they like for shipping,it is up to buyers to either pass on by the ones who seem to have inflated fees or if entered into a purchase it accept it and move on,after all it is your decision from who you buy from

    I am very familiar with shipping fees from Canada to basically everywhere and adjust my fees as such,I am also aware as a buyer of the cost to ship certain items from certain countries,most are fair maybe taking a small fee for their time work and materials which really is not unreasonable considering they have to buy said items to ensure buyers get their items safely

    Just my viewpoint as both an online buyer and seller since the inception of the online marketplace

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    Feel sure you will find a better price for a kindle, dare say there will some hardly used Christmas gift ones for sale soon once the novelty has worn off.

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    Default Re: Excessive postage!

    Quote Originally Posted by LAUR74 View Post
    I can and assume most buyers do move on if the shipping charges seem to high,I cannot see myself buying an item knowing full well what the shipping charges are then leaving a negative comment about it,just my 2 cents but if you choose to buy the item and choose to pay the shipping charges,as long as the item arrives in the condition stated then leaving anything other than perhaps a side note with the pos feedback on the shipping charge is really not fair

    Simple for me,I look at feedback and shipping and if 1 or both are a little iffy I move on,save to buy another day
    Agree 110%.

    Best wishes for many sales to all,

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    Default Re: Excessive postage!

    If the P&P cost is more than 50% of the actual postage I will leave a comment such as Postage is inflated, and in Ebay a low mark for P&P, in Ebid Neutral
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    Default Re: Excessive postage!

    If I need the item, and the total cost is reasonable I will buy.

    Then I will leave feedback about the P&P cost being inflated. For example, on Ebay there is a rating for P&P and I will give 5 for everything else and low for P&P. On Ebid, depending on how unrealistic the price is, I may leave neutral feedback.

    I don't want shipping limits, but I want prices to be what they are for, and shipping is not the same as the item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAUR74 View Post
    Sellers ultimately can charge what they like for shipping,it is up to buyers to either pass on by the ones who seem to have inflated fees or if entered into a purchase it accept it and move on,after all it is your decision from who you buy from
    I agree with this 100%, sellers can charge what they like, but they should expect to get feedback about how realistic they are in setting charges.

    I think that Amazon fee structure which might be £0.01 for a book, and £2.80 for P&P, though postage cost might be £1.10, distorts the market for books because you do not have a realistic price for books.

    On Ebid/Ebay, you might get the same, a book starting at £0.01 with £2.80 for P&P. On Ebid/Ebay, unlike Amazon, the seller sets the P&P charge. I do not know before I receive the book what it weighs and how thick it is. £2.80 might be just right, too little or too much. I will rate the seller on how realistically they set their P&P charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billsbooks View Post
    I agree with this 100%, sellers can charge what they like, but they should expect to get feedback about how realistic they are in setting charges.

    I think that Amazon fee structure which might be £0.01 for a book, and £2.80 for P&P, though postage cost might be £1.10, distorts the market for books because you do not have a realistic price for books.

    On Ebid/Ebay, you might get the same, a book starting at £0.01 with £2.80 for P&P. On Ebid/Ebay, unlike Amazon, the seller sets the P&P charge. I do not know before I receive the book what it weighs and how thick it is. £2.80 might be just right, too little or too much. I will rate the seller on how realistically they set their P&P charge.
    So knowing that, if a seller listed thousands of books and chose to use the same pricing structure s/he does on Amazon for ease of maintenance, resulting in an "inflated" postage cost here but a total price that's fair because the item price is unrealistically low, you would damage their feedback by complaining about the postage. That seems pretty unreasonable.

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    Default Re: Excessive postage!

    Have to agree with Kimbo Here,Dr Bill your 1 store lists over 900 books so you sell books I would assume someone seeling books would be very familiar with the shipping rate associated with say a 400 page soft cover as opposed to a 600 page hardcover and could easily find the better value on the shipping from a buyers point

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    If someone used the same pricing structure as Amazon on Ebid, they would be a lazy seller.
    It is ease for the buyer, in this case transparency, that matters, not ease for the seller. You have to adapt to the market.

    If someone sells an item for 1p, they sell the item for 1p.

    Then the P&P should be appropriate for the item.

    If the P&P is unreasonable then there is a misdescription, and it is not unreasonable to say so.

    Yes, whether lazy or trying to get me to be interested in a low price by inflating the P&P, I would give accurate feedback.
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    Default Re: Excessive postage!

    Quote Originally Posted by billsbooks View Post
    If someone used the same pricing structure as Amazon on Ebid, they would be a lazy seller.
    It is ease for the buyer, in this case transparency, that matters, not ease for the seller. You have to adapt to the market.

    If someone sells an item for 1p, they sell the item for 1p.

    Then the P&P should be appropriate for the item.

    If the P&P is unreasonable then there is a misdescription, and it is not unreasonable to say so.

    Yes, whether lazy or trying to get me to be interested in a low price by inflating the P&P, I would give accurate feedback.
    One person's lazy is another person's efficient. I'm not sure sell-through rates here justify a complete remodel over thousands of listings. Luckily, or unluckily I'm not in that league so it's not something I've needed to do, but I could completely understand anyone who did. So we'll have to agree to differ on this one.

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