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    Sorry to say that you see very few fish when you go diving around Britain, even in the marine conservation areas. However there are lots of crabs and starfish and lobsters

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbsbks2010 View Post
    Sorry to say that you see very few fish when you go diving around Britain, even in the marine conservation areas. However there are lots of crabs and starfish and lobsters
    Thats why the conservation areas need to be huge and numerous!
    The Government need to do it right and not just pay lip service to this problem.

    F.A.D.s Fish aggregation devices ( floating tethered wreckage and sunken wreckage) can be deployed in conservation areas to attract and hold fish.

    There are loads of ideas out there - they just need to be used to conserve rather than capture fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billsbooks View Post
    The scandal is not the waste, but that fish are being caught which should not be caught.

    It is cheaper for fishermen to catch all than to catch selectively, but in the end they suffer because they are depleting the stock which will give them their future livelihood.
    Agree 110%.

    Wish the government would take a little more time and money to consider the planet and its various species, and a little less of both in bombing those they happen to disagree with, sigh...

    Best wishes for many sales to all,

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    Whatever your point if view, there is NO WAY such idiotic waste can be justified.

    NO WAY!!!

    And it seems a lot of others agree, and the campaign supporters have increased by well over twenty nine thousand since I signed up 3 hours ago

    Graham

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    Make that Fifty Thousand now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink_Panther View Post
    Attachment 20745 You can't conserve dead fish?
    No, you can't conserve the fish that have been caught and thrown back but it does help preserve the stocks. By making it not profitable to catch such fish and stiff penalties for doing so makes fishermen less likely to fish in such a way as to catch that size of fish or species.

    What would you do with the fish that had been caught? Allow the fishermen to sell them and make a return on them? How would that prevent them from targeting them in the future?

    This is not a new issue and I have long thought it a waste - but I have never come up with a good solution as to how to dispose of them in a way that someone does not make a profit.

    The UK does have fishing exclusion zones and other areas where only certain methods of catching fish are allowed (e.g. no trawls). Biggest problem is that we do not have full control over our own fisheries and are dictated to by the EEC.


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    wunda if its on fbk.............................wuudnt mind tryin battered mackerel butties............u buyin thoi cloky
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    Quote Originally Posted by clockmad View Post
    Make that Fifty Thousand now
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    Quote Originally Posted by astral276 View Post
    No, you can't conserve the fish that have been caught and thrown back but it does help preserve the stocks. By making it not profitable to catch such fish and stiff penalties for doing so makes fishermen less likely to fish in such a way as to catch that size of fish or species.

    What would you do with the fish that had been caught? Allow the fishermen to sell them and make a return on them? How would that prevent them from targeting them in the future?

    This is not a new issue and I have long thought it a waste - but I have never come up with a good solution as to how to dispose of them in a way that someone does not make a profit.

    The UK does have fishing exclusion zones and other areas where only certain methods of catching fish are allowed (e.g. no trawls). Biggest problem is that we do not have full control over our own fisheries and are dictated to by the EEC.
    It does nothing to help conserve stocks at all !

    The fishermen of today have to work within ill thought out laws that bear no resemblance to what is really happening.

    1st of all we should be primarily concerned with the British fishing fleet.
    2nd British boats only should be allowed to fish to the twelve mile limit.
    3rd British quotas should be landed in British ports.
    4th A system of 50 mile long no take zones should be set up to encompass the whole of the UK coastline. Adjacent to every no take zone would be a 50 mile take zone. anything twelve miles out is fair game.
    5th In every no take zone, within the five years F.A.D.s Fish aggregation devices should be employed to attract and hold fish.
    These F.A.D.s could be floating or seabed wreckage. Take zones would benifit as fish from no take zones seek out less crowded waters.


    You could call this plan MAD but it's nowhere near as evil as the discard rule.

    BTW fishermen are not 'profiteers but family men trying to feed their families.

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    Signed the petition, every little bit helps.

    Best wishes for many sales to all,

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