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    Default Re: Pocket knives and other collectible knives

    Quote Originally Posted by terry5732 View Post
    Regardless, eBid is not the seller. The law specifically only applies to "Any person who sells".
    May I suggest that were eBid to permit then they would be equally culpable.




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    Default Re: Pocket knives and other collectible knives

    No more so than your local paper allowing an ad for a store which sold knives
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    Default Re: Pocket knives and other collectible knives

    Quote Originally Posted by terry5732 View Post
    Regardless, eBid is not the seller. The law specifically only applies to "Any person who sells".
    This has all been thrashed out many times before. If a juvenile obtained a knife via eBid and went on to kill or cause serious injury - do you really think questions would not be asked of eBid as the means used to obtain the weapon? What about the bad publicity that could well arise?

    All this is pointless anyway. eBid says 'NO' and that's the end of it. They made the conscious decision some time back that it was not worth the possible grief or the time spent policing such sales.

    You can all keep debating it back and forth but it will not change the situation here.


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    Put another way, eBid cannot permit illegalities to take place.

    If you wish to challenge UK Law apply for a Judicial Review.



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    Default Re: Pocket knives and other collectible knives

    Here Here

    Im with you astral276.
    I have seen other sites that dont let you sell knifes and pellit guns on there sites but i have found other Big auction sites that will let you sell these items. You have to feel out alot of forms to be able to sell on there site because of the items that are being sold there.

    The only thing i can say is if you dont like the rules find a diffrent place to sell your items ( like kinfes ect. ect.)

    Jason

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    Terry as you well know the laws of a country are not made by the population, but those in power.

    The population don't have to agree with them, but they are required to abide by them.

    As for whether we are all wuss', I suggest you go & ask the family next UK soldier, brought back to Wootton Bassett.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/p...-mourning.html
    Or maybe some of our returning servicemen & women.
    Although I doubt the answer you get will be as polite as this.

    To be honest, if the people that listed knives on eBid before eBid bought in the total ban, had acted responsibly, learned where their goods were legal to sell to & where not, & only made them available to those areas then maybe support wouldn't have needed to step in.

    http://www.ebid.net/forums/showthrea...l=1#post928715


    Unfortunately they did not all act responsibly, & kept trying to find ways to make items available, to those it was illegal to sell to. Hence the ban.

    http://www.ebid.net/forums/showthrea...l=1#post970488


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    Default Re: Pocket knives and other collectible knives

    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicina View Post
    As eBid's Registered Office is in England, the law that applies is English & Welsh Law, as per their Terms & Conditions.
    Scotland, & Northern Ireland tend to have their own Laws, that may, or may not be the same as the English & Welsh ones.

    As far as I know, if they want US Law to apply, they would need to have a Registered Office in the USA,
    Canadian Law, a Registered Office in Canada etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juliebabe25 View Post
    I go into our local $2.00 shop and I see all sort of mean looking knives for sale and I cringe.
    They are also sold at local markets

    Don't these retailers have a conscience ?

    I don't want that sort of knives sold anywhere.
    Interestingly enough, a knife or cutting tool was one of the first developed by prehistoric man. Frankly, knives are useful in a large variety of applications. Use as an edged weapon is certainly one such use, but hardly the most important one in this day & age. I find that I'd be totally lost in the kitchen without my chef's knives which if you know how to use them fulfill the function of many kitchen appliances.

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    Default Re: Pocket knives and other collectible knives

    Quote Originally Posted by terry5732 View Post
    "It is an offence for any person to sell to a person under the age of 18 any knife, knife blade, razor blade, axe or any other article which has a blade or is sharply pointed and which is made or adapted for causing injury to the person." [CJA 1988 section 141A]
    Unless I'm mistaken, by using this definition a pencil would be classed as a weapon. In fact, if memory serves, somewhere in my military training we were instructed on the use of a pencil as a deadly weapon. Must admit though that I would prefer a K-bar instead.

    Can't really say I've ever found a pencil useful in skinning a deer, but they can be useful in fishing so I recommend keeping on in your survival kit along with some line & hooks or safety pins.

    Oh! That reminds me, women's hat pins can also be used with deadly results as can double & single edge razor blades.

    Of course, stone knives were, I believe, one of man's earliest tools and are still relatively easy to fashion.

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    Default Re: Pocket knives and other collectible knives

    Using the text of the law note the "AND which is made or adapted for causing injury to the person" which excludes most knives as they aren't 'made for causing injury to persons'
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