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Thread: Can you "under price" yourself & lose customers ? Wow !

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiasTreasures View Post
    I don't think this is odd. There have been items listed that I thought about buying, but the price was so low it made me suspicious. It's easy to compare prices for new items and because so many things can be faked, an unusually low price is a red flag. Sellers like this are all over GreedBay, and I think buyers are getting more cautious.



    Or consider raising you prices a bit.
    Of course - it doesnt happen here.

    It wouldnt surprise me if the percentage is similar here, feebay, and other such auction sites.

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    If it looks too good to be true,
    then it probably is.

    Make some people think twice about buying.

    Me~ I just love a bargain.

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    Well - if they are serious buyers, they will be quite aware that there is 'good' jade, and 'poor' jade.
    They probably want to know where you source it from, as these days, most sourced from China is very poor.
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    I believe you can.
    I was asked very bluntly by someone a while ago, why all my prices were about 20 to 25% lower then my competitors!
    From that point on I increased my prices by that amount and I am actually getting more sales!

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    I think the problem has more to do with misunderstanding (and mistranslation) of the word 'jade' than the price of your pieces, which seem about right for what they are.

    The precious gemstone jade comes in two varieties - jadeite (hard jade or ying yu) and nephrite (soft jade or ruan yu) - and, when used in jewellery, it is amost exclusively set in solid gold. It would certainly never be set in Tibetan silver.

    Unfortunately, the Mandarin word 'yu' is generally translated as 'jade' although it is used to describe a wide range of semi-precious stones. The stones that are in your jewellery are most likely soapstone (or some other variety of steatite) or serpentine, though they could be any one of around 30 stones that are sold as 'yu'.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cmjewels925 View Post
    I think the problem has more to do with misunderstanding (and mistranslation) of the word 'jade' than the price of your pieces, which seem about right for what they are.

    The precious gemstone jade comes in two varieties - jadeite (hard jade or ying yu) and nephrite (soft jade or ruan yu) - and, when used in jewellery, it is amost exclusively set in solid gold. It would certainly never be set in Tibetan silver.

    Unfortunately, the Mandarin word 'yu' is generally translated as 'jade' although it is used to describe a wide range of semi-precious stones. The stones that are in your jewellery are most likely soapstone (or some other variety of steatite) or serpentine, though they could be any one of around 30 stones that are sold as 'yu'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmjewels925 View Post
    I think the problem has more to do with misunderstanding (and mistranslation) of the word 'jade' than the price of your pieces, which seem about right for what they are.

    The precious gemstone jade comes in two varieties - jadeite (hard jade or ying yu) and nephrite (soft jade or ruan yu) - and, when used in jewellery, it is amost exclusively set in solid gold. It would certainly never be set in Tibetan silver.

    Unfortunately, the Mandarin word 'yu' is generally translated as 'jade' although it is used to describe a wide range of semi-precious stones. The stones that are in your jewellery are most likely soapstone (or some other variety of steatite) or serpentine, though they could be any one of around 30 stones that are sold as 'yu'.
    OK.. and one other question for your obvious fount of knowledge about jade- is there a way to test a given stone to determine conclusively whether it is the "hard" or "Real" jade, as opposed to the cheaper soapstone? Say, for example, I have a stone which I suspect is jade, if there any way an average person could perform a test on the stone (in an unobtrusive area, perhaps if the stone is not set) that could positively identify it?

    Since you mention soapstone (and I am familiar with that since it is used in construction/welding for marking stuff- it's kinda like chalk) it crossed my mind to try and shave a piece off using a regular knife (which you should be able to do, if it is soapstone) and I imagine that hard jade, you would not be able to cut with a knife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idealproductsales View Post
    OK.. and one other question for your obvious fount of knowledge about jade- is there a way to test a given stone to determine conclusively whether it is the "hard" or "Real" jade, as opposed to the cheaper soapstone? Say, for example, I have a stone which I suspect is jade, if there any way an average person could perform a test on the stone (in an unobtrusive area, perhaps if the stone is not set) that could positively identify it?

    Since you mention soapstone (and I am familiar with that since it is used in construction/welding for marking stuff- it's kinda like chalk) it crossed my mind to try and shave a piece off using a regular knife (which you should be able to do, if it is soapstone) and I imagine that hard jade, you would not be able to cut with a knife?
    The quick answer would be ask a jeweller or geologist. Otherwise, it really depends on what testing equipment you have.

    Jadeite is 6.5-7 (about the same as quartz) on the mohs hardness scale and nephrite is 5.5-6 (about the same as glass). If you have a gem tester which works by measuring the conductivity of the mineral, jadeite will probably be marked on it and nephrite will test around the tanzanite mark. If you're looking at the chemical compostion, jadeite contains calcium, sodium, iron and aluminium and nephrite is mainly made up of calcium, magnesium and iron.

    As well as serpentine and soapstone, other semi-precious stones that are commonly sold as 'jade' include aventurine quartz, carnelian and chrysoprase.


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    haha no. I love it - always something new to learn.. I happen to have about 10 pounds of ore containing Ruby and Emerald stones, and at one time I was reading up on how to cut gemstones (and, being such a pack rat, I still have some of the gear I gathered together to build my home made dopping wheel!.. which never got done hahaha!0

    I still have the ore, no clue really what to do with it - I also have a gorgeous Amethyst Geode, and a huge (about the size of a 4-year old's fist) emerald, uncut (I doubt it would really make much of a gem, but who knows what's inside it?) all just sitting around gathering dust.. hehehe

    Being an autodidact, I just love learning new stuff as I go.. always something new to be learned every day!
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    I'll stick with my science, if its pretty or makes my wife happy, its solid gold.

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