Jenkin's aquitted today

[jockjunior]

Hello all,
just had the news on. Ummmmm ???? I know that legally he's now innocent, but this case has always worried me. I said at the time I wasnt impressed by the way the police handled this. They now say they wont be looking for anyone else, that the evidence is either lost or destroyed. So a young girl is murdered and no-one pays the price. Did they allow a guilty man to go free or did they arrest the wrong man, we'll never know now will we ?


jock

[rainbowcraft]

I don't believe that Jenkins did it...but that leaves the fact that SOMEONE did and it's now far too late to pursue another line....

[MadcatwomanEnterprises]

I think he did do it.

He had previous history of attacking her.

He sent two daughters out of the house to get white spirit, leaving him alone with the girl, then three minutes later, he gets in the car and nips down to the local Focus for a couple of hours. Call my cynical, but if he was going down Focus (a DIY shop that sells white spirit) why has he sent his two daughters off somewhere else to get some white spirit? Plus he was in a Safeway earlier, which usually sells things like white spirit anyway. Even if they didn't have any, why send the kids out for some when he is going out to a shop that sells it just a few minutes later?

His wife left him because she became convinced he had done it (and who is better to notice a change in behaviour than the woman who lives with him before and after the murder?), and she hasn't let him see the kids, and either he hasn't gone to court to apply to see them, or he has tried and failed. Plus none of his daughters would seem to have made any attempt to see him.

Doesn't add up, there are too many things that have me thinking he did it and not enough to say he didn't.

[dragonmist]

There was the little matter of the known schitzophrenic with violent tendencies who had followed the girl on her way home from school. He was seen on the day she died hanging about opposite the house.
Jenkins would have been covered in blood from her injuries if he did it. His wife was leaving him for another man who she later married, so it would suit her very well to have him out of the way. She coached her daughters how to respond to police questioning even though she wasn't supposed to discuss the case. The couple who said he had attacked her previously were buddies of his wife. No-one else saw anything. As a foster child she was in regular contact with a Care Worker. She liked being with the family and was perfectly happy there. It doesn't sound like she was being abused to me. One word from her and she would have been removed from their care.
The police were so convinced he did it they didn't even question the other man. Was Jenkins really going to bludgeon her to death with his daughters in the next room and liable to walk out and see it? I don't think so.
A bit like that other case. Rachel Nicholls I think. The Police were so convinced they had the right man, the real killer got away. They even tried to frame him using a policewoman.

[emma5721]

i never thought he was guilty either

[sweetmimi]

There was the little matter of the known schitzophrenic with violent tendencies who had followed the girl on her way home from school. He was seen on the day she died hanging about opposite the house.
Jenkins would have been covered in blood from her injuries if he did it. His wife was leaving him for another man who she later married, so it would suit her very well to have him out of the way. She coached her daughters how to respond to police questioning even though she wasn't supposed to discuss the case. The couple who said he had attacked her previously were buddies of his wife. No-one else saw anything. As a foster child she was in regular contact with a Care Worker. She liked being with the family and was perfectly happy there. It doesn't sound like she was being abused to me. One word from her and she would have been removed from their care.
The police were so convinced he did it they didn't even question the other man. Was Jenkins really going to bludgeon her to death with his daughters in the next room and liable to walk out and see it? I don't think so.
A bit like that other case. Rachel Nicholls I think. The Police were so convinced they had the right man, the real killer got away. They even tried to frame him using a policewoman.

Have to agree with you on this Beryl I read a report saying how he got the blood on his clothes when he might have turned her over to check on her Just seen a doctor re-inact this with a guy with home made blood on his head and the doctor had the same result with the splattered blood as well I think the Police were just too keen to pin this on him and did not even follow up the report about the other man.

[MadcatwomanEnterprises]

My reasons for saying I think it was Sion Jenkins are:

1. History of previous violence against Billie-Jo:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4542282.stm
backed up by her schoolfriends who saw the injuries:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4620506.stm
They say she was afraid to tell adults (care worker etc) because she thought it would look bad on the family and she would get stuck back in the children's home.

2. Rumours of a flirt/hate relationship between them:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4428984.stm also favouring her against the other girls would imply an attraction. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4436130.stm

3. He only had a couple of minutes, which it is claimed was not enough, but medical evidence said was enough time to attack and kill her:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4396998.stm

4. Blood on clothing could have been from her last breath as opposed to the attack. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4396998.stm). This theory came from a US medic who was paid for by Jenkins latest wife who is a millionaire. It still does not answer the question of why drops of her blood (not the same pattern as the one on his shirt) were found on his shoes.

There were also fragments of Billie-Jo's skull in the blood spatter on the shirt, which could not have got there through expiration of blood via her mouth or nose, but this was not allowed to be used at the trial as the defence had not had sufficient time to argue against it scientifically: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obje...name_page.html

5. It is said by a neighbour it was obvious that Billie-Jo was dead, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4404952.stm) so why did Jenkins say he had tried to put her in the recovery position and that was how her blood came to be on him? He also said to the emergency services that he hadn't even checked for a pulse, which would surely be the first thing you would do?http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/leg...icle344511.ece

6. Previous domestic violence against the wife at the time (and other children):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4698598.stm showed his habit of returning to normal behaviour immediately afterwards. His first wife would not have been allowed to give the evidence against him if it was not backed up - she had been to a GP and to A&E, so therefore this must have been checked and double checked for validity that this actually happened before she was ever called as a witness. She was not allowed to give evidence in this trial as it would have polarised the jury: http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...706668,00.html
His natural daughter backed this violence up: http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...706204,00.html

7. The schizophrenic man seen in the area had a plausible and substantiated alibi for the time of the murder: http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...706204,00.html

8. Violence towards his natural daughters means he has only ever been able to see them when he is supervised:http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...706204,00.html

9. Previous history of calmly lying, in that his CV (about which he must have been quizzed at interview) was 85% lies: http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...706204,00.html

10. It was his wife who went to the police with the allegations that led to them accusing him of murder, not just a case of the police fitting him up:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...706204,00.html

11. The 999 call was played on TV. This is only my suggestion, but I would have sounded that panicky ringing A&E if my kid had falled down and broken an arm or something. It was nowhere near how panic-stricken someone would normally be for finding their foster daughter battered to death on the patio. Transcript of call can be found here:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/leg...icle344511.ece

The only thing I have in mind that I cannot find anything to argue against is that a piece of black plastic sack was found up her nose at post mortem. This relates to the mentally ill man (with alibi) who often put pieces of black plastic sacks up his nose.

[rainbowcraft]

Wow, food for thought there Madcat!

With regards to:

The only thing I have in mind that I cannot find anything to argue against is that a piece of black plastic sack was found up her nose at post mortem. This relates to the mentally ill man (with alibi) who often put pieces of black plastic sacks up his nose.

IF it was Jenkins who did it...perhaps the black plastic bag bit was a deliberate ploy to get the police to focus on the mentally ill man...just because that man liked putting it up his own nose, it doesn't mean he had any urge to put it up anyone else's.

[dragonmist]

How would Sion Jenkins have known about the Schitzophrenic shoving plastic up his nose if the police didn't know until they questioned him after Billie-Jo's death?
I would have thought the Police would have forensic tests done on the plastic found on the man, and the pieces found up the girl's nose. They could have checked if the pieces came from the same make of bag. They might even have matched the pieces to prove they had been torn from the same bag.
They say the man was 15 minutes walk away from the house at the time of the death. That doesn't mean he was 15 minutes away at the time of the attack. It depends how long she took to die, and time of death is notoriously difficult to be exact about, unless it was witnessed. Our local forensics chap says the time of death could easily have been 20 minutes either way of the estimated time of death. It was only an estimate, not written in stone.

[rightcharlie]

Its not one of those cases where i feel qualified to offer a verdict of my own so i guess, on this one one has to trust the judicial process. Though they do screw up, big time.

Like with those alleged kid killing cases...