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    Default Re: New seller trying to navigate this site

    Hi Bittyboy.

    I've always used the After Sales Log (ASL) to communicate with buyers unless they've asked me any questions before the purchase. If you look back at your first sale you'll see that the ASL drop down has an "Ask (buyer's name) A Question", which can be used and is "on the record" if there is any query later on.

    When the buyer has paid and I've checked Paypal to make sure that they actually have paid I always "Ask a question". I thank them for their purchase and payment (often with buyers using Ebid for the first time they can be uncertain of what they're doing, so this confirms to them that they have bought and paid for the item). My dispatch is "Next Day", although I often post it earlier and I confirm that the item "Will be in the post tomorrow".

    When I've posted, usually RM 2nd Class and have the POP, I add the details and RM Reference Number to the ASL. I add that "Your parcel was accepted at the P.O at (say) 11:01 and is on its way to you." Until I reached 100 FB I would also add something like "Your FB would be greatly appreciated on safe arrival" and again thank them for their purchase and perhaps something like "... hope to see you again some time".

    I ALWAYS leave FB for every buyer, that's how I can say that I've sold 156 items (not the 102 that have left me FB) and future buyers who care to check out my "FB left for others" will see that too.

    Most never reply, those that do mostly just answer with "Thanks" or "Great" and only about 60% even leave FB. I wonder how many even read their end of the ASL ! But I've been helpful, friendly, kept them up-to-date with the transaction and everything is there to be seen by Support if there is any sort of dispute (I've never had any disputes so don't know what happens if there is one).

    If you are thinking of going back to selling elsewhere. I do wonder if you're now seeing obay through "rose tinted spectacles" ? Yes, at one time you got regular sales there, (so did I) but I do distinctly remember you complaining many times that they had dried-up and that obay was 'ghosting' your listings. That, because you refused to 'Sponsor', you had sold virtually nothing for months on end and would look at alternatives ? I remember because I was saying the same things on the same threads over there.

    Another good point about selling here is that, unlike obay, Ebid does not try to claim that it has exclusive rights to your listings and sales. For years, until my sales here out-stripped those on obay and my main efforts were concentrated here, I listed BIN items (never run auctions on both sites together) on both at once in the hope of putting fliers in with any items that I sold there. So I would advise you not to delete your items here and make use of obay as a billboard if you so wish.

    I have to say that I still haven't seen you on PYA Forum or that I can see any editing of your titles to try to get better visibility on GS as I recommended only last Sunday. I haven't even tried to look for you on F/Book, Pinterest or Blue Sky. I always made it clear on the obay boards that this is NOT obay and if you try to use it like it is, you will fail to sell here. You have to use your imagination and a bit more effort here. I apologise if that sounds offensive, it isn't meant to be, but to give ebid a fair chance, only you can make it happen. IMO if you keep complaining about lack of sales too often the most likely outcome will be that this thread will be deleted, which would be a pity as there is information that just might be of help to others.
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    @leadhillsonline
    "Not interested in messages from sellers or buyers that is why I became an online seller in the first place."

    And yet here you are, chatting in the forum! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    But I'm glad you do.

    Someone mentioned Paypal micropayments. I don't know if there've been changes, but when I looked into it years ago I decided it was not for me. It would have been a worthwhile saving on low value items. I'm sure it would be good for postcard sellers, for example. But it soon gouged more from you if you received bigger payments. With two distinct mail addresses I expect you could have Paypal accounts of both types, but managing them would be a bit of a pain.

    @BittyBoy
    I'm not up to date with the community forums over there, I've got a permanent ban. But before that I heard that SD will be mandatory after 6 Aug. Though I'll believe it when I see it, for they previously said end March, April 15, then another date, now August.

    If you list with 'free' postage, at present you can buy the SD label (necessary to get the buyer's address), buy your own postage elsewhere, then after a period with the SD label unused (14 days?) you can claim the cost back. Of course, that's a loophole ebay may close. The whole point about forcing people onto SD is so they get the volumes they've contractually committed to with RM and Evri to gain extra income.

    If you list, as I've always done, with the buyer paying postage, you can still do the same, but, gob-smackingly incredibly, then the buyer gets the postage refunded, not you. I raised this in the forums over there and people told me this is entirely logical, after all the buyer was the one who bought the postage! Sometimes I just despair, seeing what some people think is fair.

    I'm inclined to go with the flow. If you're forced onto SD, try it. It might work well for you. It certainly doesn't work well for postcard sellers, the pricing is lunatic and they're up in arms about it. But you're not in that market.

    @theElench
    I've never posted in the PYA forum. I doubt whether I'd get any sales from ebidders for what I have currently listed. But maybe the theory is that those postings get picked up by search engines?

    I'll try it when I have some more routine things to sell. For example, if they'd not sold quite quickly I'd have put in PYA the vitamin pills I had. But that was a one off, I won't have any more.

    @BittyBoy
    You ask how to do credit/debit cards here. I believe when people pay by Paypal they can use a card if they wish.
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    Default Re: New seller trying to navigate this site

    Some info...

    Paypal, buyers can use credit/debit cards even if they do not have a Paypal account and I believe they do not have to sign up for a Paypal account.

    Paypal micropayments great if all your transactions are under £10. Over £10 then you are paying 2% more commission than standard. That will apply to all transactions small or large.

    ...go with the flow...
    Obay SD stuff - IMO If you are going to the post office anyway for Special Delivery and paying out £8.95 upwards over the counter, let the other platform send you the QR code and let the Post Office print and affix the label. You do not pay monies over the counter as the buyer has already paid. You get your net proceeds in 24hrs. Of course you can get royal mail to print the label and collect the parcel from you. You don't need to go out.
    Last edited by robbielowe; 30th July 2025 at 12:15 PM.

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    The forum is anonymous and mostly I answer the odd question and don't have to engage if I don't want to.

    At one time I had both standard and micropayment paypal accounts. Both became dormant once ebay stopped payments going into them then paypal sent me an email stating that they would charge X amount each month on the micropayment account unless I started using it again, so I closed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bittyboy101 View Post
    I've heard that eBay are no longer allowing the removal of neg feedback, ...
    Your first negative is a watershed moment. It's like your first crush just broke up with you. How? Why? I'm so nice, that's so unfair.

    You'll get over it. And eventually you'll realise it's an opportunity. When I check someone's feedback and see there's some negs/neutrals, what was that about? Is it a reasonable sounding neg, with no response from the seller, amongst a sea of positive but rather anodyne feedback? Or is there a response from the seller, showing how they'd handled the situation and done the best they could? Is it clear that perhaps the buyer was even trying to blackmail the seller with a threat of bad feedback?

    The opportunity. You only get one shot at this. Make it count. Draft it in a text editor, so no chance of accidentally submitting it part way through. Think about what happened, how you did your best, how to summarise all that in a way that really shows the true situation. No insults, no snide, just keep it professional. Paste it into the feedback reply, hit submit, and move on.

    Don't get obay involved. They might remove the offensive comment, yet leave the big red neg. That's worse. Just handle it yourself.
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    Default Re: New seller trying to navigate this site

    I got a video recommendation on YouTube about SD from a small channel who I have never watched before. I won’t post a link, anyone interested can find it by typing in:

    From Overkill to Overjoyed: eBay’s Simple Delivery Reviewed

    He suggests you are shielded from delivery related feedback. In fact as a business seller myself, looking from afar some of the perks of SD make me somewhat envious of it when it is laid out like the bloke did there.

    Regarding reaching out to CS I spoke to a lovely woman in Ireland this morning about a buyer who did the INAD trick on me on a £22 CD. They refunded on my behalf, protected my metrics and said they had put a flag on the buyer to be reviewed for patterns of similar behaviour. If you’re in good standing with them and ring up politely you stand a chance of getting most things resolved in your favour.

    I am going to ring Paypal about the micropayments and try some different items on here I think. Although the topic has strayed somewhat, back to eBid I want to give it every chance and find what fits.

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    For anyone interested in the PayPal Micropayments rate, I used a calculator on it and worked out that the fees hit an equilibrium on the micropayment 5% + 5p rate up to a payment of £12.09.

    The standard 2.9% + 30p rate is cheaper for payments received of £12.10 or more.

    That’s good for me with eBid so I’ve moved over to the micropayment rate.

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    @SCcoins
    "He suggests you are shielded from delivery related feedback. In fact as a business seller myself, looking from afar some of the perks of SD make me somewhat envious of it when it is laid out like the bloke did there."

    You might get your wish. When they've got rid of most of the SD stupidities (e.g. not being able to combine postage), it will be making them enough revenue that small to moderate business sellers will be next in their sights.

    I think you're very wise not putting all your eggs in one basket.
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    Hi Elench,

    Thank you for your long well detailed post and for taking the time and trouble to explain things regarding how you handle your sales and buyers.

    There are some good tips and most of them regarding the communication messages you give your buyers and you leaving them their feedback first is almost the same as what I always used to do whenever I would get a sale on something.

    I do also remember complaining on the eBay forum about a sudden loss of regular sales and my listings being ghosted because I hadn't paid eBay extra money to promote my listings for "better visibility"... I also read that other board members had stated that they had paid the extra for promoted listings on eBay and they still complained on the boards saying they still haven't sold anything and their listings are still not getting views because eBay still did not show their items to buyers... This put me right off to be honest. If that is what you get for promoting your listings then you're better off keeping whatever little money you've got in your pocket as there is no point paying eBay another fee for nothing !

    I take your point regarding me complaining here about my lack of sales on eBid... Like I said before in one of my previous posts, I am not used to having to "self promote", especially when I've had almost 20 years of eBay doing all the legwork for me for just a selling fee.

    Now having to learn how eBid works is very challenging and hard on me... I honestly love eBid and like how they have kept it so easy and straight forward to get a listing up on here but this having to self promote and do my own dirty work I am really struggling to do.

    I know you said about promoting on the other sites but I'm worried that I could get told off for spamming their sites and Google are too ignorant to even reply to the 3 emails I had sent them all last week.

    Like I said I like eBid so would never delete my listings from here but I am getting rather frustrated due to the weeks rolling by and no sales progress on here because I haven't got my finger out and self promoted, I just thought it would be like how people find your stuff on eBay and believed that other members here on eBid would browse the site and eventually see my stuff. but I now know that's not the case and it's not that simple to make sales on here unless I've got some "outside help" to direct potential buyers to my listings hosted on here (eBid).

    Before the weekend I did try reducing almost everything to maybe attract some buyer interest, Unfortunately there was about 5 listings that I could not touch, these listings have over 15 photos and if I touch them or modify them in anyway, eBid just take away all my additional photos that I have already paid for bringing those listing photos back down to 15 photos and forcing me to have to find all the additional photos and pay eBid again 3p per photo to get them back on the listing again, so this is why I haven't reduced these items. You shouldn't have to lose all your paid for additional photos on a listing just because you clicked on the "Edit" button to revise the price to a lower price. This needs addressing so when a user has paid the extra cost to have more photos on their listing they do not lose them when making a revision to their eBid listing.

    I get your point Elench and don't want this great thread deleted as it is packed with very useful information that helps other like-minded sellers here on eBid and not just myself...

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    @ Johnwash1

    I fully understand. Just like you I also got a permanent ban on those eBay boards for speaking the truth regarding how Simple Delivery and Managed Payments (now with huge delay !) are the two worst decisions eBay have ever made and they should fire their current CEO who's 100% useless !

    Those corrupt people don't like an honest opinion or truthful feedback. I am sure glad not to be part of their awful unhelpful community.

    Regarding the credit card payment option, I'm not too sure it works like that... unless it directs the buyer to a PayPal guest checkout (or something like Sage Pay) where they can then use their credit or debit card to make their payment to the seller and buy the desired item they want.

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