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    Default Top Trump Confusion

    All of the tariffs and cancellation of tariffs in America have left me very confused.


    The current state of play appears to be that China have 100% tariffs on everything, the rest of the world have 10% on everything apart from Russia and North Koria which have Zero tarriffs on everything, is this correct?


    Are cars, steel and aluminiumum (pronounced Al-You-Min-E-Um) excluded from this tariff system and remain at their old (a couple of weeks ago) tarriff rate?

    Are products made from steel and aluminium included in the tariff restrictions?

    Are Model Cars included in the restrictions - may sound silly but those over zelous border guards may think differently

    Can a Chinese importer of Chinese goods in a 10% tariff country sell to the USA and so get around the full Tariff restrictions for goods imported directly from China?


    I am sure you can answer all of these questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stnenopmoc View Post
    All of the tariffs and cancellation of tariffs in America have left me very confused.


    The current state of play appears to be that China have 100% tariffs on everything, the rest of the world have 10% on everything apart from Russia and North Koria which have Zero tarriffs on everything, is this correct?


    Are cars, steel and aluminiumum (pronounced Al-You-Min-E-Um) excluded from this tariff system and remain at their old (a couple of weeks ago) tarriff rate?

    Are products made from steel and aluminium included in the tariff restrictions?

    Are Model Cars included in the restrictions - may sound silly but those over zelous border guards may think differently

    Can a Chinese importer of Chinese goods in a 10% tariff country sell to the USA and so get around the full Tariff restrictions for goods imported directly from China?


    I am sure you can answer all of these questions.

    There are still higher tariffs on goods from Mexico and Canada as well. Meanwhile us being decent to the yanks has resulted in us getting no benefit whatsoever - over to Starmer and the accounts secretary - LOL. Nightmare if you want to sell overseas - thankfully I stopped a couple of years ago - unless someone desperately want something.

    The whole issue of tariffs is somewhat laced with theory and counter theory.
    I think the stock market losing then soaring will make trillions - for some, sadly not me! Still more plummets and soars to come methinks!

    I personally understand why Trump wants to bring Industry home - it's something we should have done years ago! Instead we allow overseas countries to purchase not only our companies, but our utilities including water - hence Thames water are actually part owned by the Chinese, - here we are told to be wary of the Chinese LOL.
    The Germans put in protectionism in place to protect its industry from overseas buyouts. Meanwhile all we do is plan how to build more and more houses - usually on floodplains or sandpits and then wonder why...
    Industry and proper jobs for youngsters is what wanted and as for net zero - don't start me on that one...

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    I think below a certain value you won't need to worry about tariffs. So sending a few model cars to Americans probably won't be a problem. Might be popular too, perhaps soon be the only kind of cars the average MAGA voter will be able to afford!

    But I'm not an expert.
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    Default Re: Top Trump Confusion

    Cockwomble screams tariffs - stock market goes way down - oligarchs buy out cheap stock - Cockwomble changes mind about tariffs - stock market goes up again - oligarchs sell for profit - Cockwomble declares tariffs again - stock market goes way down again - etc etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanetB View Post
    Cockwomble screams tariffs - stock market goes way down - oligarchs buy out cheap stock - Cockwomble changes mind about tariffs - stock market goes up again - oligarchs sell for profit - Cockwomble declares tariffs again - stock market goes way down again - etc etc etc.
    Exactly what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanetB View Post
    Cockwomble screams tariffs - stock market goes way down - oligarchs buy out cheap stock - Cockwomble changes mind about tariffs - stock market goes up again - oligarchs sell for profit - Cockwomble declares tariffs again - stock market goes way down again - etc etc etc.
    Trump won't have bought/sold himself, of course. That would be illegal. But family/friends??? Will the SEC have the guts to investigate?
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    Default Re: Top Trump Confusion

    Thought I would share this picture by Darren Cullen (mentioned in the same breath as Banksy)


    I think this is what trump intentends, don't see any other jobs appearing
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanetB View Post
    Cockwomble screams tariffs - stock market goes way down - oligarchs buy out cheap stock - Cockwomble changes mind about tariffs - stock market goes up again - oligarchs sell for profit - Cockwomble declares tariffs again - stock market goes way down again - etc etc etc.
    Jan, you’ve taught me a new word. I hadn’t heard that one before. 47 does appear to be manipulating the market for his rich cronies. It’s amazing what he can do with a post on social media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstGreenIsGold View Post
    Jan, you’ve taught me a new word. I hadn’t heard that one before. 47 does appear to be manipulating the market for his rich cronies. It’s amazing what he can do with a post on social media.
    Or to put it another way...

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    Default Re: Top Trump Confusion

    Somebody please explain, is there now a specific tariff on mobile phones being sent to the USA or not?

    If so does this include collectable mobile phones?

    Does this inclde tablets?

    Does this include computers?

    H E E E E L P !

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