The EU Referendum.

[astral276]

I can't say that I know anyone who wants to remain in the EU. Which is why the pollsters' polls that say it will be close result baffle me a bit. All the online polls I have seen have the 'Leave' faction at around 85%. While I don't expect the difference to be that marked I don't understand how that figure marries with the 50/50 claims.

[astral276]

Have added a poll to the thread. eBid members should be as good a cross section of the country as any other.

[sidthelamp]

the EU the greatest con of the uk people ever, started as a right wing fascist concept in the 1930s , endorsed by the 3 at the end of the war, yes mr churchill sold us out, hes not a lone though every single vote /referendum since has been sold to us as a economic trade pact, not a integration of all states political/social military union run from Brussels, lead by the german state after all it was there baby in the 1930s ,

it really is disturbing ,disgusting that a british PM has to wonder around europe to get permission on what his country can and cant do, the feeble deal he has presented to the british people as some sort of victory is in fact hollow theres nothing new at all every thing he says he got can be done under current eu regs , he would just have to do what hes doing this week and thats go cap in hand to the rest of the eu, more smoke before the sheeples eyes, the eu gave him nothing because it goes against there fundamental bottom line , which is why he dont get a bean, and the bull your all being fed,

the migration problem is not about benefits as they would have you belive, its about cheap work force , propping up business yet again, at the expense of the uk working population,

what drugs farage is taking i dont know but hes certainly leaving a whole raft of truths in the back room , hes not touched on the history , or deception of the eu as far as i can see. but like all politicians, they all tow the invisible line to a greater or lesser extent, he could well score a few points by not only saying vote to leave the eu but reverse a lot of what the eu has implemented on the uk, a subject none of the party's have announced, after all thats what the out brigade want in the first place, the whole thing is a farce and has been since june 1945, what do you thing your grandads would say if they new the history from then till now.

[astral276]

Mel, can that man keep any promises. I hate his guts, rolling his shirt sleeves up to make him look like one of us, I best shut up as I already got in trouble writing to him and IDS telling them what I thought.

Jacob Rees-Mogg for PM.

[sidthelamp]

I can't say that I know anyone who wants to remain in the EU. Which is why the pollsters' polls that say it will be close result baffle me a bit. All the online polls I have seen have the 'Leave' faction at around 85%. While I don't expect the difference to be that marked I don't understand how that figure marries with the 50/50 claims.

a 50/50 poll on a in /out vote is a small Representative poll nothing more and is chosen for its geo political results , in other words in the run up to a referendum the spin is being paid for, subconsciously plant in your heads its close, were as we all know who ever we talk to is a out voter, its a farce and a game and its started right now

[tony41]

What worries me is that Rupert Murdoch (that well known American/Australian) wants the UK out. What business it is of his I don't know.

[sidthelamp]

What worries me is that Rupert Murdoch (that well known American/Australian) wants the UK out. What business it is of his I don't know.

because his business would be repressed by USA business because of the eu deal on TTIP, as will a lot more uk business if the eu/ttip trade agreement happens, the uk is seen as a consumer as to a producer

[astral276]

What worries me is that Rupert Murdoch (that well known American/Australian) wants the UK out. What business it is of his I don't know.

The likes of Obama should also keep their opinions to themselves. They are not interested in what is good for the British people but what most benefits America.

[astral276]

Still think that dodgy Dave C will find a way to screw us over in some way.

Not just DC, the whole EU machine will be brought to bear to produce the result demanded.

[astral276]

Mel, can that man keep any promises. I hate his guts, rolling his shirt sleeves up to make him look like one of us, I best shut up as I already got in trouble writing to him and IDS telling them what I thought.

A 'Leave' result may be the quickest way to get rid of DC. If he pushes to stay in (I can't see him doing otherwise) then his position will be untenable if the result goes the other way.