BIN To BUDDY

[suesjools]

In my eyes Buy It Now means buy it now - no pay, no play...

Ditto that.

Best wishes for many sales to all,

[burgyeb]

As a general rule I have never expected immediate payment. But I like having the option for immediate payment available for sellers who want to use it. This also gives buyers the option to purchase or not. It was not an issue until I noticed this trend; should be addressed in some way.

If buddy points were not awarded to a buyer until after completed payment, that could be enough to slow the problem. I notice the seller does not get buddy points until payment is received and/or positive feedback is received.

[suesjools]

As a general rule I have never expected immediate payment. But I like having the option for immediate payment available for sellers who want to use it. This also gives buyers the option to purchase or not. It was not an issue until I noticed this trend; should be addressed in some way.

If buddy points were not awarded to a buyer until after completed payment, that could be enough to slow the problem. I notice the seller does not get buddy points until payment is received and/or positive feedback is received.

Good points. I also like the idea of awarding buddy points to buyers after payment is made, no reason NPBs should get buddy points.

Best wishes for many sales to all,

[burgyeb]

I would really love to pay eBid $40 dollars in fees, and even more monthly, as this indicates growth in sales.

But not via a scam buyer(s). Still find it a bit strange that the buyer(s) join new to make the BIN purchase; always on a holiday (Labor Day & Columbus Day); and in my case always from across the pond. If it wasn't so much involved, I could easily see the humour in the situation.

[JanetB]

On no account should buyers be forced pay BIN purchases immediately unless there was a seller option to opt out.

There would be a massive effect on multiple sales and goes against my policy to buyers of 'no rush for payment if you are still browsing through my shop'.

I look to increase sales not to decrease them.

I have to agree with Dean on this one.

But also, buyers should NOT gain any buddy points until payment has been remitted and cleared.

Or better still:

No member should gain any buddy points until a transaction has been fully executed - PPP (purchased, paid, posted)

[JanetB]

In my eyes Buy It Now means buy it now - no pay, no play...

[JanetB]

I agree!

I also have had 1 nonpaying bidder and 1 that probably won't pay. Both are U.S. Both still have the buddy points.

The for sure nonpaying bidder has 23 negatives and neutral. The person seems to have hit a lot of us.

With so many negs and neuts I am puzzled as to how such members are still able to purchase items on eBid. I always believed any member having 3 negs or more receives a strike through their name or even gets booted off.

[sidthelamp]

I have noticed a disturbing trend. I have had 2 new buyers from the UK join and used BIN (Buy it Now) on a high end coin. Both joined and placed BIN order on same day they joined. The first buyer did not pay for the coin. They received Buddy Point for the BIN purchase right away, but I received nothing. No Buddy Points, no payment, nothing. It appears they pulled the same thing with another seller, but that seller cancelled the transaction. I had also cancelled the transaction accidentally, and went to eBid about a refund, because the fee was almost $40. That buyer has a neg from me and a neutral from the other seller, yet they have not received a strike through for their activities. Also they still have all the Buddy Points that they earned through fraudulent activity.

Now a second new buyer from the UK bought the coin using BIN, and received Buddy Points immediately. I received nothing. Actually I have 2 buyers who have unpaid BIN purchases. I am of the opinion that BIN purchases should require immediate payment. The Bid option was available, for those not wishing to pay right away. This has never caused me concern in the past, but the coin is expensive, and it appears to me that this is deliberate. I do not plan to cancel any sales, because the seller will generally loose their seller's fee if they cancel. This means that the seller needs to follow the reminder path, leave neg, and then request the refund of fees. The buyers are getting to keep their Buddy Points from the transaction. This is not right.

I think the Bay requires immediate payment for BIN. I think eBid needs to consider moving in that direction.

on your second point i agree with you

this immediate payment just how is that going to work as soon as they hit the confirm button flashing lights and bells YOU MUST PAY NOW or are we going down the line of "this item will remain for sale till its paid for" the latter is a threat albeit mild its a threat.

you can not make any buyer pay immediately even after they hit confirm and there taken to login at paypal you cant force them to login to pay

i think your concerns are just there needs to be a alternative approach for your given example

[burgyeb]

this immediate payment just how is that going to work as soon as they hit the confirm button flashing lights and bells YOU MUST PAY NOW or are we going down the line of "this item will remain for sale till its paid for" the latter is a threat albeit mild its a threat.

you can not make any buyer pay immediately even after they hit confirm and there taken to login at paypal you cant force them to login to pay

i think your concerns are just there needs to be a alternative approach for your given example

How does eBay or any other venue that requires "pay now" for BIN sales obtain the payment upon purchase? The buyer chooses either to complete the shopping cart or abandon the shopping cart.

If one goes to a local store, wanting to "buy something now" they will either complete the transaction by "paying for it now" or they can choose to put the item(s) back (abandon the shopping cart). If the buyer persists, and removes the said item from the store via theft, they would be stopped (if caught) and arrested/prosecuted, not rewarded.

It would actually be eBid who would determine an appropriate means or approach to implement the option. It is easily done, as others are already doing it. Also each seller can decide for themselves which approach works best in their case.

[KAYS6912]

You forgot to add, ,
should ebid charge their 2% before or after payment has been made ?

Agree with that Ron. Would save one helluva lot of hassle - on both sides.

BURGYEB: Am right with you on all your points also.