The Science of Creationism

[rogaz1010]

First time using the post quote thing, Bill
It is the little things that amuse us really.

Keep on seeking and learning and It will come to You

[Pink_Panther]

You're just throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

Not at all. I believe we have evolved,

I believe also that this planet will one day be consumed by the sun when it goes Super Nova.

If you want a 'God' then it should be the sun and the countless suns that existed and died before them.

The sun gives us life as a species and will one day take it away , unless of course some other catastrophe overtakes us in the meantime.

Where all this came from is another matter that religion or science cannot answer satisfactorily.

So we all need to have 'faith' of some kind.

[damian_steele]

David Attenborough joins campaign against creationism in schools
Sir David Attenborough has weighed into a campaign calling for creationism to be banned from the school science curriculum and for evolution to be taught more widely in schools. FULL STORY

Ban teaching creationism at school, say academics
The teaching of creationism should be outlawed in school science lessons, a group of leading scientists have said.
And the curriculum should be changed to ensure evolution is taught from when children start school, according to academics including Sir David Attenborough and Professor Richard Dawkins.

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Scientists Vow to Fight “Religious Fundamentalist” Teaching Creationism
A group of 30 scientists, including Sir David Attenborough and Richard Dawkins, are urging the government to toughen its guidance on the promotion of creationism in classrooms, saying it is sometimes portrayed as a scientific theory by "religious fundamentalists" working in publicly funded schools.

The group has issued a statement which appears on a new campaign website, warning it is "unacceptable" to teach creationism and intelligent design in school science lesson and called for the teaching of evolution to be included at both primary and secondary levels in the National Curriculum and in all schools.
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Those involved with the Teach evolution, not creationism! website are listed as:

Organizations

Association for Science Education
British Humanist Association
British Science Association
Campaign for Science & Engineering
Ekklesia

Individuals

Jim Al-Khalili OBE
Sir David Attenborough OM, CH, CVO, CBE, FRS, FZS, FSA
Sir Patrick Bateson FRS
Professor Colin Blakemore FRS, FMedSci, HonFSB, HonFRCP
Sir Roy Calne FRS
Dr Helena Cronin
Professor Richard Dawkins FRS, FRSL
Professor Robin Dunbar FBA, FRAI
Professor R. John Ellis FRS
Professor Sir Anthony Epstein CBE, FRS
Dr Dylan Evans
Sir James Gowans CBE, FRCP, FRS
Professor Robert Hinde, CBE, FRS, (hon) FBA, FRCPsych
Dr Julian Huppert
Professor Hugh Huxley FRS, MBE
Professor Steve Jones
Professor Sir Hans Kornberg FRS
Lord Krebs FRS, FMedSci
Professor Sir Harold Kroto KCB, FRS
Professor John Lee MBBS, PhD, FRCPath
Sir Paul Nurse PRS
Revd Professor Michael Reiss FSB, FRSA, AcSS
Professor Steven Rose
Sir David Smith FRS FRSE
Sir Fraser Stoddart FRS, FRSE
Sir John Sulston FRS
Professor Raymond Tallis FMedSci, FRCP, FRSA
James Williams FSB CSciTeach
Professor Lewis Wolpert CBE, FRS, FRSL

I think this pretty much shows what the leading scientists are thinking about the subject.

If you want to know who these people or organizations are, head to their website and click the Signatories link.

[Pink_Panther]

Those involved with the Teach evolution, not creationism! website are listed as:

Organizations

Association for Science Education
British Humanist Association
British Science Association
Campaign for Science & Engineering
Ekklesia

Individuals

Jim Al-Khalili OBE
Sir David Attenborough OM, CH, CVO, CBE, FRS, FZS, FSA
Sir Patrick Bateson FRS
Professor Colin Blakemore FRS, FMedSci, HonFSB, HonFRCP
Sir Roy Calne FRS
Dr Helena Cronin
Professor Richard Dawkins FRS, FRSL
Professor Robin Dunbar FBA, FRAI
Professor R. John Ellis FRS
Professor Sir Anthony Epstein CBE, FRS
Dr Dylan Evans
Sir James Gowans CBE, FRCP, FRS
Professor Robert Hinde, CBE, FRS, (hon) FBA, FRCPsych
Dr Julian Huppert
Professor Hugh Huxley FRS, MBE
Professor Steve Jones
Professor Sir Hans Kornberg FRS
Lord Krebs FRS, FMedSci
Professor Sir Harold Kroto KCB, FRS
Professor John Lee MBBS, PhD, FRCPath
Sir Paul Nurse PRS
Revd Professor Michael Reiss FSB, FRSA, AcSS
Professor Steven Rose
Sir David Smith FRS FRSE
Sir Fraser Stoddart FRS, FRSE
Sir John Sulston FRS
Professor Raymond Tallis FMedSci, FRCP, FRSA
James Williams FSB CSciTeach
Professor Lewis Wolpert CBE, FRS, FRSL

I think this pretty much shows what the leading scientists are thinking about the subject.

If you want to know who these people or organizations are, head to their website and click the Signatories link.

Can you add Professor Pink Panther to the list?

[suesjools]

Can you add Professor Pink Panther to the list?

LOL!

Freedom is #1 with me, too - the freedom to believe and worship (or not) as we choose, without interference from government entities - likely the reason I don't support those who want to cram their beliefs down my throat at election times.

Best wishes for many sales to all,

[adruml]

As much of a contradiction this is, I truly beleive in the evolution process and "it" all started from a spec of dust. Now if we could only figure out who or what put the spec of dust out there we could obtain some answers

[burgyeb]

LOL!

Freedom is #1 with me, too - the freedom to believe and worship (or not) as we choose, without interference from government entities - likely the reason I don't support those who want to cram their beliefs down my throat at election times.

Best wishes for many sales to all,

Totally agree.

[moonwitch]

As much of a contradiction this is, I truly beleive in the evolution process and "it" all started from a spec of dust. Now if we could only figure out who or what put the spec of dust out there we could obtain some answers

Who made the 'who' that put that speck of dust there ???

[adruml]

Who made the 'who' that put that speck of dust there ???

That is part of the contradiction when we throw away the Bible stories and begin thinking logically. Just realizing if it all started from a spec of dust there has to be a Supreme being of some sort which started it and I guess "it" is just another thing we don't know.
Did a God of some sort throw a spec of dust out and kick back to see what happens or did a God of some sort create the Universe then decide later to add life? I beleive it was the spec of dust and the Universes, Galaxies and life evolved from that.
I like to use the term Supreme being rather then God. Could be one in the same but I'm not much for beleiving the stories and there are so many stories and so many God's folks beleive in I find it hard to beleive anyone would have a hard time agreeing there has to be a Supreme being.

[Pink_Panther]

And from that speck of dust everything evolved.

Anything proceeding that is beyond our understanding (at the moment).

One thing no-one can imagine is absolute nothingness as one's own consciousness would intrude.

There is a great mystery for sure. maybe the best thing is just to accept it.