Interesting Post - something to chew on...

[madelaine]

BUT you can't list the same item on both sides and say I have the right to withdraw at any time! (If I see that I don't bid)

But you can list identical items - which is what I do all the time - though less and less goes on ebay since they wrecked international visibility.

[merlin]

But you can list identical items - which is what I do all the time - though less and less goes on ebay since they wrecked international visibility.

it`s ruined trade card and football sticker items i used to sell over 60 % of them to usa canada china etc. not even worth listing now

[madelaine]

I was a powerseller, MM - the changes since last August have each made my sales worse. I used to list near 100 items in my shop. Now I don't have a shop and I have 3-4 listings running - just my very best sellers. My business is only a hobby but it has been a disaster for many others, including, by the sound of it, your good self.

All this explains why I get so angry with ebid's attitude. In fact, I'm concentrating more effort on RL sales.

[merlin]

I was a powerseller, MM - the changes since last August have each made my sales worse. I used to list near 100 items in my shop. Now I don't have a shop and I have 3-4 listings running - just my very best sellers. My business is only a hobby but it has been a disaster for many others, including, by the sound of it, your good self.

All this explains why I get so angry with ebid's attitude. In fact, I'm concentrating more effort on RL sales.

lol thats why i like a bit of a weekend with no rain go booting at least it gets me a few quid

[kedo]

Couldn't agree more.

In fact it was the regular bashings I got from the KT Ebid Diehards that eventually persuaded me to pack up and leave.

I downgraded to silver and left my stuff to rot here a month ago.

Every time I complained about slow sales you guys told me "my lack of sales was my own fault".

AND YOU LAID INTO EBAY AT EVERY TURN !

You reported my posts and I got 2 KT bans. Some of your would be falling over yourselves to QUOTE me so you could keep the evidence to report to G&M.

The more critical I became - and admitteldy I went OTT a few times in sheer frustraton - the more you laid into me or Ebays Fees....

- the more I thought "oh well I will stick where I am".

400+ feedback in 5 years over there. It aint me ! I sell fine over there, so why stick about here listening to you bash it.

Disingenuous to say the least! You make yourself sound quite benign. In fact you were leaving negative reviews at various review sites and on other forums. I don't think any seller here is going to thank you for that!

[merlin]

Thanks for making my point Kedo.........

So I must not state my view on Ebid anywhere. I must be silenced for fear of damaging your sales.

BUT..... Its ok for you to lay into Ebay, damaging the opportunities of sellers over there. Which you do regularly as do Most Ebid Diehards.

That doesn't count huh - Are Ebay Sellers like myself unnafected by your criticism of the site....

You are one of the biggest hypocrites here and in my top 5 reasons for quitting.

woooooah hold on 90% of us still sell on ebay and ebay can take the knocks and ramblings of anyone its a billion dollar corporation , yes i lay into ebay but i lay into ebid more but it does not stop me trying to promote here i just want to sell and the more i sell here the better as i sell lots of low value items ebay is no good for me please think about the effect your comments are doing to me not EBID BUT ME

[damian_steele]

I think thats pretty obvious without you having to chip in and point it out thanks Damian...............
Sigh !

So if it was so obvious, why did you deliberately write something that was incorrect?

[damian_steele]

You have no way of knowing any more than I do whether he was reading it or not.

I seriously doubt that it would have taken him six hours to read the thread, so I think we can be fairly sure that he was doing something else.

[ojleap]

I think those people who have tried Ebid in the past, as I have, and been told such things as "marketing is on its way", "we have great plans ahead for Ebid" etc. and then see the same old lame excuses have every right to be frustrated.

I one for tell EVERY single buyer from every location I sell (including my own website) about Ebid on my Flyer... thats 5000+ orders in two years folks... yet, when we are making such an effort to promote a site and the owners of the site do little to nothing in return, it does make Ebid sellers feel, well, a little cranky.

As I have mentioned, this is my third time back, and one thing I have noticed is the page views have increased on all of my items. However, the page views across a few days here is equivalent to a day on Ebay - but without some mainstream exposure (and no, being top of search engines which Ebid have been for some time doesn't count), Ebid is always going to be the very little cousin to Ebay.

For those who know of and list on Tazbar, they have been doing some marketing to promote themselves, including TV adverts... they only started last year! So if they can do it, why can't Ebid?

I think my main problem with Ebid is that the die hard Ebidders make a point of saying that it is down to the userbase to promote the site... I disagree, as a seller I don't rely on my customers to tell others... I have to pay for advertising and promote myself... so, why can't a recognised site like EBid do the same?

[rabbitburrow]

For example here on Ebid P&P is very reasonable because we have no excuse to hike it - but on Ebay I reckon 75% of sellers add their expected listing and FV fee to their P&P costs - thus sellers dont pay fees - its the buyer that does it !

Hi Crusales

I'm not having a dig, but do you not think that the buyer pays the fees anyway? Think about it, if a seller is not adding extra to their p&p to cover fees, then surely they would add it onto the list price? I.e, they buy something for £1, want a 50p profit, they allow for fees (I'll use £1 in this example), so they will either list @ £2.50 + p&p, OR they'll list @ £1.50, and add the £1 to the p&p. That was what I thought the sellers did.