Re-listing unsold items

[gazza]

Not had this request before. Will take a look.

Thx for the input.

Gazza

Will be added at the next software update.

Gazza

[deanosaur1972]

I would like to know why this is being introduced? I see zero benefit and a whole host of potential concerns.

4,000 listings all starting and finishing at the same time will affect the sales of the seller because there is little exposure on the site. When those listings do reach a reasonable exposure point for browsers then the sites listings are dominated by one seller - buyers hate that. If they are browsing the eBid site they are browsing for a variety of listings from a variety of sellers.

It would also affect the potential for new sellers to sign up and sell on eBid - they are most likely to browse the category they sell in when finding eBid and being confronted by a wall of listings from one seller does not provide them with a positive reaction about the site.

The door would be wide open for sellers with hundreds of thousands of listings to install and maintain those listings with no effort. Normally those sellers would use RUS - introducing this potential new function leaves them open to affect the whole buying and selling experience on eBid. These sellers invariably get no (or little) sales but other sellers sales will nosedive because there is a moving wall of thousands of listings making browsing a category almost worthless. A lot of the regular eBid custom would be affected.

A responsible pro-active seller would maintain their listings with a good spread finishing on all days - and ideally as many hours in those days as is possible. The importance of having rotation within an eBid shop (if the seller even has a shop) is paramount - with so many listings starting and finishing at the same time it makes a seller look inactive because the listings are nearly always in exactly the same order.

So I can't see any positives on introducing this? I can see situations where it can affect sales, can affect the browsing experience and can also affect new sellers signing up to sell on eBid. It would seem to cater for inactive sellers to affect the pro-active sellers with a big negative effect on the site.

At present the relist function for the first page (50 I think?) is fine.

[gazza]

I would like to know why this is being introduced? I see zero benefit and a whole host of potential concerns.

I can see the problem brought up earlier with trawling through 3000 listings at 50 per page.

We will be putting a number limit on the function.

Gazza

[deanosaur1972]

I can see the problem brought up earlier with trawling through 3000 listings at 50 per page.

We will be putting a number limit on the function.

Gazza

Number limit is good.

My point to the seller is that they shouldn't be trawling through 3,000 listings at 50 per page in one session. 50 in the morning - 50 in the evening, repeated until all the listings are live, a matter of seconds taken up per day. They would then look like a more active seller and sell more. There is no benefit to them or anyone to be able to list 3,000 or 4,000 in one hit in terms of sales, structure/appearance of their listings. It just seems like a facility to help sellers do the lazy thing (and sell less) rather than sensibly list for the good of themselves and the site as a whole.

[JanetB]

Deano, it's good to see you back. I always enjoy your logical input, it all makes sense to me, thanks.

[bunsock]

I am just wondering why people need to relist so many unsold items. Currently you can have up to 10 Auto relists. If the intention is that when these expire you will always manually relist there is, I consider, a much easier and less risky approach using Bulk Edit which I explain below.

Most of my listing are on a 10 day auto relist with the number of auto relists initially set to 10. Therefore if I took no action they would start closing after 100 days and would appear in my Unsold Items. To overcome this every 70 to 80 days (ie well in advance of any listing becoming unsold) I run a bulk edit. I select all my listing (by not setting any criteria on the selection page), then add all these listings to the bucket and then set the number of auto relists to 10. So after the bulk edit is run all my listing will be reset to have another 10 auto relists.

The only exception to the above is listing with multiple items that have had sales which Bulk Edit won't allow any amendment. In my case these are very few.

I completely agree with Deano about creating a situation where all your listings start and end at the same time.

[JanetB]

I am just wondering why people need to relist so many unsold items. Currently you can have up to 10 Auto relists. If the intention is that when these expire you will always manually relist there is, I consider, a much easier and less risky approach using Bulk Edit which I explain below.

Most of my listing are on a 10 day auto relist with the number of auto relists initially set to 10. Therefore if I took no action they would start closing after 100 days and would appear in my Unsold Items. To overcome this every 70 to 80 days (ie well in advance of any listing becoming unsold) I run a bulk edit. I select all my listing (by not setting any criteria on the selection page), then add all these listings to the bucket and then set the number of auto relists to 10. So after the bulk edit is run all my listing will be reset to have another 10 auto relists.

The only exception to the above is listing with multiple items that have had sales which Bulk Edit won't allow any amendment. In my case these are very few.

I completely agree with Deano about creating a situation where all your listings start and end at the same time.

That is a brilliant idea, I hadn't thought of that!

[johnwash1]

As usual, Deano is spot on. I thought the original request, from a programmer's point of view was a sensible one (though tactlessly expressed). But Deano's comments on the big seller's perspective and the effect on the site are very insightful.

[wilber11]

fine for you maybe, but not for me. you stay with your method and ill have mine.!!!

[Gill]

I can see the problem brought up earlier with trawling through 3000 listings at 50 per page.

We will be putting a number limit on the function.

Gazza

Stamp sales are a very good source of income for eBid Gazza and I can see the point Deano is making. You truly need to consider this before any changes are made.