I think that if an item is reported as being in the wrong category, admin withdraw it and notify the owner - not sure how they deal with persistent 'reoffences' though.
It doesn't cause much damage to the seller really, as usually,no fees have been paid .
Out of curiousity, I looked for definitions of "fine jewelry" on the web:
"Jewelry made of precious metal such as gold or silver and set with precious or semi-precious stones." I found this in several places, seems a bit vague.
"However, this is neither a final definition nor an absolute one. It conveniently leaves out the finest jewelry of all time, platinum jewelry. Also, it is not always necessary that the precious metal should be set with diamonds or other stones to be able to qualify as “fine” jewelry." A comment added to the first statement on one site.
I know that 80% rhodium jewelry is also made, as an alloy with either silver or platinum. It's rarely used because rhodium costs about twice as much as platinum. I'm familiar with these metals because I am extremely allergic to all metals except sterling silver and platinum. I can't wear any jewelry containing gold if it touches my skin, so the fact that something is genuinely fine jewelry doesn't mean that I can wear it.
Another site listed these as some (but not all) of the stones used in fine jewelry: "Amber, Amethyst, Coral, Diamond, Emerald, Jade, Jasper, Pearl, Quartz, Ruby, Sapphire, Turquoise." I know that a high-quality piece of jade can cost thousands of dollars, and a low-quality piece can be almost worthless; the criteria for grading jade is unique to that stone. The same is true of turquoise, a specific piece may or may not be a gemstone.
"Looking for the definition of fine jewelry? Well, you won't find one. That is because there really is no set definition yet the term is used quite frequently." This author seems to have identified our problem, and it may explain why there is so much difficulty coming to a consensus.
"Looking for the definition of fine jewelry? Well, you won't find one. That is because there really is no set definition yet the term is used quite frequently."
Perhaps we should do away with the term altogether?
Ie: - just have 'Jewellery/jewelry>gold>xxx Jewellery/jewelry>silver>xxx
Jewellery/jewelry>platinum>xxx etc..
I have been following this thread with interest.Originally Posted by Opis
First, regarding the Fine Jewellery category as it is now, Scrap Metal shouldn't be there! To me, fine jewellery means just that - pure, precious metals, high-end, what you would find in a jewellers. I think it makes sense as was said earlier to base it on the precious metals rather than stones because there are sooooo many.
Also to me, costume jewellery means something completely different to fashion jewellery, which is the likes of what is found in Claire's, Assessorize etc. Costume jewellery is better quality and brings vintage to mind - beautiful sparkly cut glass and crystals - strands of beads or set in goldtone or silvertone, often pot metal.
As gemstones means either precious or semi-precious, I think that needs to be clarified.
'Created' could mean different things to different people and could be misinterpreted. Why not use the proper term 'man-made' stones?
Since there is a seperate category for men's jewellery, is this category to include men's jewellery? Should there be a distinction for gender within the category of fine jewellery?
What about the subcategories of types of fine jewellery - bracelets, rings etc.? Now it's getting complicated!
Something like this makes sense to me:
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Gold> No Stones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Gold> Precious Gemstones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Gold> Semi-Precious Gemstones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Gold> Other Natural Stones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Gold> Man-made Stones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Gold> Plated, Rolled, Filled etc.
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Platinum
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Sterling Silver> No Stones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Sterling Silver> Precious Gemstones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Sterling Silver> Semi-Precious Gemstones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Sterling Silver> Other Natural Stones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Sterling Silver> Man-made Stones
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Precious Metals> Sterling Silver> Plated, Rolled, Filled etc.
Jewellery> Fashion/ Everyday
I think it may help to keep junk jewellery out if a note was included at the top of the relevant Fine Jewelery categories stating the requirement for a hallmark/assay.
Just my input/ideas.
Last edited by ElegantScraps; 30th December 2008 at 11:38 AM.
They have a stamp if genuine, a stamp of purity - same idea as a hallmark.
The footnote could read something like:
Genuine hallmark/assay/stamp of purity required on all jewellery listed in this section.
That should work for all countries.
Thanks, glad you like the list.It has to be universal - to work in all countries, simple but precise, almost regimented so it is easy to follow and find for any kind of person from anywhere - for both buyers and sellers.
What does everybody else think though? Additions, subtractions...changes?
I did not mean to jump in and take over, I do not want the job!These are just my suggestions.
Oh...oh...I was just thinking, wouldn't it just be deluxe if they optioned a link with the note to an info page about the purity stamps and what they mean?
I had another idea...
In addition to having a note on the main 'Fine Jewellery' section, such as (but not limited to
Anyway, I just thought it might be a way to 'tighten up' the section since it is a problem and has the potential for becoming downright abused as this place grows.
Right, I need to go clean my house now, little one trashed it.
Where would a seller put the goodies like necklaces made of real pearls or beads of semi-precious stones (coral, turquoise, jade, etc.)? If you go only by the metal, these will get pushed into the Fashion/Costume/Everyday categories. Am I mistaken, they are not Fine Jewelry?
Have several pieces of Christmas costume jewelry and don't know where to list this jewelry. any ideas? let me know. Thank you peddlerjo
I would vote no on them being placed in with Fashion/Everyday or Costume, they should be classed higher. Don't they usually have a metal clasp, wire etc.? If so, I would guess they would usually be stamped and could go into one of these categories. But then, I am only a consumer, no expert.
Or,
Jewellery> Fine Jewellery> Pearls & Gemstone Beads
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