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View Poll Results: Which Computer Operating System Is The Best?

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  • Windows 10 is the best operating system

    1 33.33%
  • Linux is the best operating system

    2 66.67%
  • Ubuntu is the best operating system

    0 0%
  • Windows 10 has the best support network

    0 0%
  • Linux has the best support network

    2 66.67%
  • Ubuntu has the best support network

    0 0%
  • Windows 10 has least user issues

    0 0%
  • Linux has the least user issues

    2 66.67%
  • Ubuntu has the least user issues

    0 0%
  • Windows 10 has best futuristic technology

    0 0%
  • Linux has best futuristic technology

    2 66.67%
  • Ubuntu has best futuristic technology

    0 0%
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Thread: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by burgyeb View Post
    I would if I could! Guess I could Google it.

    With MS not supporting Windows XP, Vista, and at some point Windows 7, what can be done with those versions?

    For instance, could a Linux system be installed on a Windows XP?...or on a Windows Vista?...or on a Windows 7?
    Linux doesn't run on Windows. I think what you're really asking is could a Windows PC be repurposed by installing an alternative operating system (such as Linux).

    It depends mainly on how good the PC is, whether the Linux system chosen is lean (some Linux desktop environments are probably as bloated as Windows, and demand powerful 3D graphics cards, some are very conservative), and what the user wants to do (contrast user A who just wants web browsing and email, user B who wants to do video editing, design a bridge, weather forecasting and control a rocket launch!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by astral276 View Post
    'Paranoid' might be my middle name but I am convinced that when MS release a new OS they gradually cripple the old one via updates until it becomes so slow that users give in and upgrade.
    The problem with Windows updates is that MS adopted a very clever model (in principle much smarter than the way Linux does it!).

    Windows updates can be installed individually and even individually uninstalled. When new updates are available, a hugely complex calculation is done to figure out whether or not update A depends on B and C and D... and this can soak up a lot of cpu time and cause much thrashing around on disk, especially if have been 100s of updates.

    Sometimes MS releases a service pack, i.e. a whole bunch of updates all rolled into one. That has a big benefit, because now the calculation is starting from scratch again, and until you have 100s more updates everything will install quickly.

    I believe Windows 10 has had a number of these service packs, also known as cumulative updates.

    It's been quite a while since Windows 7 had one. So Win 7 now tends to grind exceedingly slowly when trying to update, often giving up completely and failing to get the recent fixes. You might think that's deliberate MS policy, Mel? I couldn't possibly comment!

    For someone who's not a geek, but not totally computer illiterate, there's something called Wsusoffline which is fantastic for updating Windows when you're having this kind of trouble. The only downside is that you then don't get the updates it's installed listed in your update history. But I don't see that as much of an issue. Having done your updates, then run Belarc (free for non-commercial use) to see whether you're still missing any important security updates.

    PS: although the update mechanism in Linux doesn't have Windows' ability to remove individual updates easily, in practice that's not a problem, and the speed and simplicity of the updating process is just a joy. Sometimes 'smarter' isn't a benefit.
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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by astral276 View Post
    'Paranoid' might be my middle name but I am convinced that when MS release a new OS they gradually cripple the old one via updates until it becomes so slow that users give in and upgrade.
    What factors have lead you to this conclusion?

    Do not think I would call it paranoia; perhaps a provocative speculation.

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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by johnwash1 View Post
    Linux doesn't run on Windows. I think what you're really asking is could a Windows PC be repurposed by installing an alternative operating system (such as Linux).

    It depends mainly on how good the PC is, whether the Linux system chosen is lean (some Linux desktop environments are probably as bloated as Windows, and demand powerful 3D graphics cards, some are very conservative), and what the user wants to do (contrast user A who just wants web browsing and email, user B who wants to do video editing, design a bridge, weather forecasting and control a rocket launch!).
    Well it may be what I meant, if adding an application such virtual box to Windows XP, Vista, or Windows 7 is not doable.

    Can you define "good". What specs would an older version of Windows need to be "repurposed" with a Linux os?

    Assuming the PC is good enough, which versions of Linux would be appropriate for Windows XP?, Vista?, and Windows 7?

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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Spent a bit of time exploring the official Virtual Box website at www.virtualbox.org The site was impressive and user friendly. Even accessed the full user manual easily, and without downloading the application.

    Was pleased to find out that"Virtual Box (VB) runs on Windows, Linux, Macintosh, and Solaris hosts and supports a large number of guest operating systems including Windows XP,Vista,7,8,10...." according to the official site.

    This site review is a part of my initial 3 month goals and overall plan. So much to learn and explore.

  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgyeb View Post
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    Can you define "good". What specs would an older version of Windows need to be "repurposed" with a Linux os?

    Assuming the PC is good enough, which versions of Linux would be appropriate for Windows XP?, Vista?, and Windows 7?
    Hard to define "good", much as it's hard to say what PC is good for Windows. It depends what applications you want to run and what performance you expect.

    If you can run XP on a PC then it's good enough to try out Linux, so a PC that's 10 years old is worth a try. When I say you can run XP, the original XP would run in 256MB of ram, but as more and more updates were released it got hungrier. So XP with service pack 3 (the last one) probably needs at least 512MB and when using a web browser it's clunky even then and 1GB makes quite a difference.

    There are specialist versions of Linux that will work in less ram, but 1GB is probably the least you should aim for. After all, a couple of sticks of ram are cheap enough and easy to fit.

    However, considering what people throw away, you should be able to scrounge a rather more capable pc, unless your friends are all Amish!
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    Mine isn't on there and it is better than any of those.
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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonSystems View Post
    Mine isn't on there and it is better than any of those.
    Same here...I have Chrome OS

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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by johnwash1 View Post
    Hard to define "good", much as it's hard to say what PC is good for Windows. It depends what applications you want to run and what performance you expect.

    If you can run XP on a PC then it's good enough to try out Linux, so a PC that's 10 years old is worth a try. When I say you can run XP, the original XP would run in 256MB of ram, but as more and more updates were released it got hungrier. So XP with service pack 3 (the last one) probably needs at least 512MB and when using a web browser it's clunky even then and 1GB makes quite a difference.

    There are specialist versions of Linux that will work in less ram, but 1GB is probably the least you should aim for. After all, a couple of sticks of ram are cheap enough and easy to fit.

    However, considering what people throw away, you should be able to scrounge a rather more capable pc, unless your friends are all Amish!
    How did you know about my Amish friends?
    Minimum requirements for a transition is always useful information. Always thought unusable computers would be scrapped for their gold, silver copper, and other baser metal content.

    So Chameleon, how is what you have better than those mentioned?

    Moonie, how is the Chrome OS better?

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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by burgyeb View Post

    Moonie, how is the Chrome OS better?
    Chrome OS is better for me as the only other OS I have is Win 10 on my laptop which I need tons of advice and youtube demos for me to make it do anything I want it to.

    My Win10 laptop is now gathering dust under a chair as Chrome OS is so much simpler to use.

    One downside to using Chrome OS is that documents go off into the cloud and are not recognised as documents if I try to upload them to Dropbox

    My laptop has Open Office as I have to pay for Microsoft Office and Open Office is free

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