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View Poll Results: Which Computer Operating System Is The Best?

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  • Windows 10 is the best operating system

    1 33.33%
  • Linux is the best operating system

    2 66.67%
  • Ubuntu is the best operating system

    0 0%
  • Windows 10 has the best support network

    0 0%
  • Linux has the best support network

    2 66.67%
  • Ubuntu has the best support network

    0 0%
  • Windows 10 has least user issues

    0 0%
  • Linux has the least user issues

    2 66.67%
  • Ubuntu has the least user issues

    0 0%
  • Windows 10 has best futuristic technology

    0 0%
  • Linux has best futuristic technology

    2 66.67%
  • Ubuntu has best futuristic technology

    0 0%
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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by cheaver View Post
    Ahhh, the days of Wine (but not many roses with it) when I had dual boot! It was great being able to access XP files when I needed them - it was super-great not to need the XP files at all once I binned Windows and took my Linux vows!

    I did that re 18.1 iso ~ couldn't get Unetbootin to do the job.......

    Yes, 17 is good.... not missing anything really, just wanted the tablet updating to the latest there is!


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    Yes, I think we can agree, wine is best in bottles!

    I'm out of date! I see 18.2 came out last week! Still, I'm a great believer, whether it's cars or software, best to wait a bit and let someone else sort out the initial problems, unless one's the kind of expert that enjoys it.

    Cheaver, I guess you know already, but for others reading along, after installing Mint my first step is to visit https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ where there's some excellent suggestions for tweaking the system a little bit. That guy is one of those rarities who can write instructions clearly enough for anyone to follow, even first timers.
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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by johnwash1 View Post
    I've not used VirtualBox on Windows. Looking at https://superuser.com/questions/4177...tion-other-tha I guess the problem is that Oracle would need to pay MS $250, and perhaps Larry Ellison is saving up for a bigger yacht?

    (If you don't get that joke, try googling 'larry ellison yacht'!)

    Myself, I'd go ahead. I assume you have your docs and photos etc all backed up? After all, your computer can get destabilized all sorts of ways, not least by the ball bearings dropping out of your hard disk drive! (I'm not kidding, I've had several drives fail over the years, though admittedly the ball bearings stayed inside). By the way, a dead hard drive is fun to take apart, you get a couple of really strong 'fridge magnets!

    Yes, Linux can be installed without VirtualBox.

    There are at least two ways.

    1. Run Windows, within Windows run a virtualizer (e.g. VirtualBox, but there are others, some cost, some don't). This means that you're running a program that emulates a bare computer. So within that you can load another operating system. Here we're talking about that guest operating system being Linux, but you could equally well run Windows as a guest, or BSD, or DOS, or pretty much anything that would run on a bare PC that has no operating system.

    2. Don't run Windows, install Linux on your computer so that your computer boots up into Linux. You can install Linux in such a way that you have a choice at boot time between running Windows or running Linux. To switch from one to the other you have to shut down and restart. Much less convenient than using virtualisation.
    Yes, I get the joke. Brings to mind a request I made to a billionaire for a modest donation to a community organization I was involved with. He told me he was broke, after purchasing his new yacht.

    I'm leaning towards using a USB flash drive to install the Linux OS(s), mainly because I've already picked up a USB flash drive. Have made Bootable flash drives before, but will need to find my notes, as it has been awhile.

    Your recommendation of adding an external DVD is also something I see as a workable solution.

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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by johnwash1 View Post
    Cheaver, I guess you know already, but for others reading along, after installing Mint my first step is to visit https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ where there's some excellent suggestions for tweaking the system a little bit. That guy is one of those rarities who can write instructions clearly enough for anyone to follow, even first timers.

    I agree, the instructions are very clear and to the point. Comprehensive coverage of Linux use. Thanks for posting.

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    Wow, time really flies if you are having fun. This process is fun, I've learned so many new concepts in a short period of time.

    Started the plan on May 29, 2017 (see post #26); short term goal #1, was to be completed within two months, by July 29, 2017.

    Short Term Goal #1: To do further online research of questions, issues, and recommended resources has been initiated and completed in part, within the stated time frame of July 29, 2017.

    Reviewed all posts to date and continued listing them under categories as questions, issues, and resources (recommendations). See post#26 for first review (posts 1-25). These reviews will provide the basis for continuing the research process.

    Would like to thank johnwash1, cheaver, and all other posters to this thread for your valuable input in the process.

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    You are more than welcome.
    The fun goes on and on and never ends.... I'm in my 10th year or so of Linux fun ~~~~ enjoy!


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    Planning over the next two months to address following goals:

    1. Continue with research process by reviewing additional recommended resources, and implementing select recommendations.

    2. Selecting at least one Linux OS to install and test drive.

    3. Decide whether to utilize Windows 10 as my host computer OS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgyeb View Post
    Planning over the next two months to address following goals:

    1. Continue with research process by reviewing additional recommended resources, and implementing select recommendations.

    2. Selecting at least one Linux OS to install and test drive.

    3. Decide whether to utilize Windows 10 as my host computer OS.
    1. Have been checking out videos that demonstrate the use of select Linux OS. This is helping me to feel more comfortable about the transition.

    2. TBD - Have through end of September to get this done. So no pressure.

    3. Have already made decision on whether to utilize Windows 10 as host OS for Linux install. Will share my decision after goal #2 is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgyeb View Post
    1. Have been checking out videos that demonstrate the use of select Linux OS. This is helping me to feel more comfortable about the transition.

    2. TBD - Have through end of September to get this done. So no pressure.

    3. Have already made decision on whether to utilize Windows 10 as host OS for Linux install. Will share my decision after goal #2 is done.
    LOL! Have actually been working on this behind the scenes.

    Made decision on the Linux os I wanted to test drive (#2) during September 2017. I downloaded and installed the version. Did review of the help and support areas for general information, installing the system, recommended preparation before changing the windows partition, installing the Linux system with a flash drive, and what to do if there was a mess up.

    Well, to tell the truth, I realized this was not a totally simple task to accomplish, especially for technologically challenged numpties.

    I sort of froze up after reviewing the information. I did however obtain a 256 GB usb flash drive and thought it should be large enough for the backup. I tried to back up everything and was told I ran out of space.

    Was I supposed to back up everything on my computer or only documents, desktop, etc? Note: Was also considering doing a factory reinstall of my computer after the backup. So what exactly do I need to backup before the factory reinstall and the installation of the Linux system?

    P.S. I decided not to use Windows 10 at all. Returned the system for a refund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgyeb View Post
    LOL! Have actually been working on this behind the scenes.

    Made decision on the Linux os I wanted to test drive (#2) during September 2017. I downloaded and installed the version. Did review of the help and support areas for general information, installing the system, recommended preparation before changing the windows partition, installing the Linux system with a flash drive, and what to do if there was a mess up.

    Well, to tell the truth, I realized this was not a totally simple task to accomplish, especially for technologically challenged numpties.

    I sort of froze up after reviewing the information. I did however obtain a 256 GB usb flash drive and thought it should be large enough for the backup. I tried to back up everything and was told I ran out of space.

    Was I supposed to back up everything on my computer or only documents, desktop, etc? Note: Was also considering doing a factory reinstall of my computer after the backup. So what exactly do I need to backup before the factory reinstall and the installation of the Linux system?

    P.S. I decided not to use Windows 10 at all. Returned the system for a refund.
    256GB usb flash drive??? Wow! My first thought was it must be a fake, so no wonder it ran out of room, but I see they're now about £60. Not cheap, but I guess that's progress.

    Well, let's take these points one at a time.

    1. "Made decision on the Linux os I wanted to test drive". Grand, which one did you choose?

    2. "...not a totally simple task to accomplish". It certainly isn't, the first time. Much like riding a bike or driving a car, though after a while it becomes a breeze.

    I'd strongly recommend starting by getting an old desktop or laptop with at least 1GB or ram (preferably 2GB) and exploring Linux on that. Then you know your precious Windows system is completely out of the picture, no risks.

    3. "I tried to back up everything and was told I ran out of space". You need to tell us more about how you did that backup, and what your objectives were. E.g. "I need to save my docs/pics but if my pc utterly dies I'll buy a new one and buy the applications I use". Or "I want a complete image of my hard drive, so I can restore the whole system to its current state if the ball-bearings fall out of my drive". And yes Virginia, hard drives do sometimes do that! Though they fail in other ways too, and these days you can reckon that unless you pay extra for premium grade enterprise drives they're pretty likely to fail within 5 years.

    I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard "No, I haven't copied my pictures anywhere else, and at the end of each holiday I reformat my camera card because I'm too cheap to spend a fiver on another one!". Or words to that effect!

    Now Burgy, I'm delighted you're resurrecting this thread and I'm sure all us happy Linux users will be rooting for you and looking forward to another convert, but, frankly, you've been a rabbit in the headlights, haven't you! And entirely understandably so, I'm not knocking you at all for that.

    That's why I tell people there are only two successful strategies for most people: either
    a) find a local Linux user group, who are sure to be friendly and welcoming, hang around them for a while to figure which ones are full of BS and not going to be much help, which ones are going to be "flying fingers" guys (they fix your problems, but they do it so fast you never learn a damn thing) and which are the ones with a bit of patience.

    Failing that, because perhaps you're out in the boonies,
    b) get an old pc to take your first steps on. Ask around, many people have one in the attic and it'll make them feel good to pass it on to someone who has a use for it. Preferably a pc that's 5 or 6 years old, not 10/15. Though with specialised Linux distros and for special purposes, even those can be handy, e.g. for several years I ran an OpenVPN server on a Pentium III 550MHz box! But that would be hopeless these days for a desktop, you need something with at least 1GB, preferably 2GB.

    Very best of luck, keep telling us how you progress.
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    Default Re: Windows 10, Linux, Ubuntu

    Quote Originally Posted by johnwash1 View Post
    256GB usb flash drive??? Wow! My first thought was it must be a fake, so no wonder it ran out of room, but I see they're now about £60. Not cheap, but I guess that's progress.

    Well, let's take these points one at a time.

    1. "Made decision on the Linux os I wanted to test drive". Grand, which one did you choose?

    2. "...not a totally simple task to accomplish". It certainly isn't, the first time. Much like riding a bike or driving a car, though after a while it becomes a breeze.

    I'd strongly recommend starting by getting an old desktop or laptop with at least 1GB or ram (preferably 2GB) and exploring Linux on that. Then you know your precious Windows system is completely out of the picture, no risks.

    3. "I tried to back up everything and was told I ran out of space". You need to tell us more about how you did that backup, and what your objectives were. E.g. "I need to save my docs/pics but if my pc utterly dies I'll buy a new one and buy the applications I use". Or "I want a complete image of my hard drive, so I can restore the whole system to its current state if the ball-bearings fall out of my drive". And yes Virginia, hard drives do sometimes do that! Though they fail in other ways too, and these days you can reckon that unless you pay extra for premium grade enterprise drives they're pretty likely to fail within 5 years.

    I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard "No, I haven't copied my pictures anywhere else, and at the end of each holiday I reformat my camera card because I'm too cheap to spend a fiver on another one!". Or words to that effect!

    Now Burgy, I'm delighted you're resurrecting this thread and I'm sure all us happy Linux users will be rooting for you and looking forward to another convert, but, frankly, you've been a rabbit in the headlights, haven't you! And entirely understandably so, I'm not knocking you at all for that.

    That's why I tell people there are only two successful strategies for most people: either
    a) find a local Linux user group, who are sure to be friendly and welcoming, hang around them for a while to figure which ones are full of BS and not going to be much help, which ones are going to be "flying fingers" guys (they fix your problems, but they do it so fast you never learn a damn thing) and which are the ones with a bit of patience.

    Failing that, because perhaps you're out in the boonies,
    b) get an old pc to take your first steps on. Ask around, many people have one in the attic and it'll make them feel good to pass it on to someone who has a use for it. Preferably a pc that's 5 or 6 years old, not 10/15. Though with specialised Linux distros and for special purposes, even those can be handy, e.g. for several years I ran an OpenVPN server on a Pentium III 550MHz box! But that would be hopeless these days for a desktop, you need something with at least 1GB, preferably 2GB.

    Very best of luck, keep telling us how you progress.

    Thank you John for responding. 1)I chose Lubuntu 17.04 back in October.

    2) I have access to an older system with 2 GB of ram. Downloaded Lubuntu 17.04; it is sitting on the desktop as an icon/file. Reviewed a basic tutorial found on Lubuntu.me/support. It contained a link at the bottom of the page for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu

    3) Also reviewed "Installing the system using an USB flash drive" and "Recommended preparations before changing a windows partition". I was trying to avoid the scenario of the "ball-bearings" falling out of my drive. This section recommended getting a backup before proceeding with the Linux installation.

    I chose to "Backup everything: for recovery use" or "To restore the whole system to its current state." I wanted to place the backup on the flash drive. Was also considering doing a factory reset after the USB flash drive back up. Is this necessary or advisable?

    Had obtained the 256 GB USB flash drive to enable me to have complete recovery backup of my windows system/all important files, and to have room to run the selected Linux version(s) side by side with windows, without windows, or to select other Linux versions to test. Thus, keeping all testing in one location without the need of a virtual environment.

    Note: Did not prepare the flash drive into a bootable flash drive as I was told it was not necessary. I have done this in the past, but have forgotten the process. Suspect that is why the flash drive "ran out of space". I think making it Bootable creates partitions on the flash drive. This may need to be addressed before moving on.
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